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A Grand Old Party in Panic

Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:36 AM
The GOP is a dead party. It no longer believes in anything. For decades, it has run as the lesser of two evils party -- asking its base to hold their noses and vote Republican because the Democrat was even worse. This time, the candidates are so closely matched that it is not even certain that the GOP candidate IS the lesser of the evils. It is well past time for the GOP to go the way of the dinosaur and be replaced by a truly conservative party.
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:01 PM
Corbett - you are suffering from a "people think like me" syndrome.

Your party would not gather 10% of the population. It would be the same for Paulus' party as well.

Are you pro-war?
Are you pro-family?
Anti-gay?
Pro-business?
Laissez-faire?
Pro-Israel?
Open-trade?

You will divide the GOP coalition down to nothing once you separate out these groups.

Ron Paul proved that the Libertarian wing of the party is only 10%. Which wing are you?

Everyone thinks that concessions made to hold the "tent" together are sell-outs, but others think those are the core issues and your positions are the sell out.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:20 PM
InBlack:

Both Romney and Obama are pro-TARP, pro-bailout, pro-QE, pro-stimulus, pro-socialized medicine, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual agenda, pro-war, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-constitution, socialists with a history of appointing liberal activist judges.

That's not a "compromise". That's a complete sell out.
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:30 PM
You are wrong or lying.

Romney has said QE is wrong, he has said abortion is wrong, he is pro-2nd amendment, just to name a few I know off the top of my head.

You are either a troll or very misinformed.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:42 PM
InBlack,

Romneycare pays for abortion and Romney bragged that not one of his judicial appointments was pro-life. He also signed an assault gun ban when he was governor.

Actions speak louder than words. I certainly believe that he has SAID he was against abortion and for the 2nd Amendment. After all, he didn't get the nickname "Captain Flip-Flop" because of his choice in footwear. He will say ANYTHING to get elected. But when you look at his record, you can see that he is lying.
Anonymous908 Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 1:06 PM
hmmmmm, if Ron Paul libertarianism only makes up 10% of republican party then how does he beat both Obama and Romney in 1-1 head to head polls. Ron Paul consistantly does better in national preference polls than both Romney and Obama.

The problem is the republicans would have to nominate Paul for president in order to win. Democrats will turn their back on Obama in droves to support Ron Paul. It is not clear that Democrats will do this for Romney.
anti-neocon Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 1:40 PM
facts are not welcome here. this site is for groupthink only. until the time romney announced that he was going to run for president as a republican, he was as pro-abortion as any democrat. how convenient for his political ambitions that he converted when he did.
bob 24 Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 11:52 AM
If you're not sure that Obama is more evil than Romney you must be a liberal.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:15 PM
Bob:

Romney supports a war against Iran. It's the one thing he hasn't flip-flopped on. It is a war we cannot afford and cannot win. (Besides, it would not be a just war.) On most other policies, he is identical to Obama. It is certainly not clear that Romney is the lesser of these two evils.
RyanM Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:57 AM
I want to keep the GOP around in rump status after a third party rises. There has to be the political equivalent of a lunatic asylum for the neocons, religious nuts and economic men.
Davole Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 11:04 AM
Ryan -

Your "rump status" is duly acknowledged!
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 11:48 AM
Ryan,

After a third party arises, the GOP will go where it belongs now-- it will just be absorbed into the Democratic Party. For all practical intents and purposes, it is a wing of that party now.
RyanM Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:22 PM
You may be right, Corbett. The GOP today is where the Democrats were back in 1980. One thing for sure, the neocons will jump to whoever appeases them the most.
Paulus Textor Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:49 AM
You're right. If you vote the lesser of two evils, you still end up with evil.
anti-neocon Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 1:19 PM
if you vote for the lesser of two socialists, you still end up with a socialist. that's exactly what we will get by voting for obama-lite romney. the only purpose the republicann party serves is to make people THINK they have real choices when they show up to vote.

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