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Rand Paul Praises Navy SEAL Chris Kyle as a Hero

christiancon Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 12:37 PM
Dont know where RP gets his Bible from- Christ was NOT a pacifist. "A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, " He was truly all God and all man- hypostatic union, He tells his disciples when He is gone to sell their tunics and buy a sword- He enjoins defense. The Bible is not pacifistic in the New Testament. It does speak of individuals turning the other cheek in personal relationships etc. The fact is RP is a moron and his followers remind me of the Jim Jones clan- he can do no wrong, say no wrong and they believe he is godlike- we of course know better- not only is he human- but he's an arrogant dumb one as well.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 12:43 PM
Are you one of those people, who after all these years of being told, still thinks Ron Paul is a pacifist?

What have you been watching and reading for the last 8 years?
christiancon Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 12:50 PM
A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 1:03 PM
Yes.

But you take it beyond what he meant. I know you don't take one quote from Jesus as use it on its own standing without knowing the man and his overall view. But you disregard the man, Dr. Paul, and condemn him based on what you "think" he means - even against the volumes of quotes and documents to the contrary.
christiancon Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 1:06 PM
He dissed a hero- a man he doesnt know. He is a buffoon. You love him- I think he's garbage. I served in vietnam era and a son who did three tours in Iraq.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 1:13 PM
Lets just say I'll take that buffoon as my president over the other options of losers.

I care more about how a politician votes than what he says about anything.

I can be forgiving of an off the cuff remark when I've done no better myself.
Besides, you got your wish, no law-abiding christian man as our president.

Thank God, right?
christiancon Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 2:06 PM
Neither one is acceptable- principles above personalities- He may be right on the economy and some of the constitution but he is A MAN- as fallible as you or I and when he crosses the line on our men in arms he's crossed my line. I hate Obama with a passion. When you guys get confronted on his buffoonish remarks you go off on better than Obama- which is a red herring. Forgiving- ? He hasnt asked for forgiveness- so I can still forgive him BUT he lost my complete respect. He speaks as though his words cant offend- We already have a man who thinks he's more than a man- we dont need replace him with another (though at RP age that aint gonna happen anyway). Sorry he lost me a long time ago but this time it cements it.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:12 PM
I don't have any problem with you thinking Ron's remark was out of line. To me the issue is republicans that don't have any problem with voting for all the political liers and law-breakers as long as they have an R after their name.

I count crossing the line for a federal politician as doing something wrong that harms the country. So you think he said an insensitive thing on Twitter. Doesn't even register to me as something to make me vote for or against him.

This inane idea that I or anyone thinks of any politician as god-like has to go away though. Politicians tend to be more snake-like. But when one of them stands out as not having been corrupted by the system, I do take notice and put him in the front row of my favorites.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:18 PM
Those who've been paying attention know what he meant and it was not to be spiteful of a dead soldier. It was a reminder that our own government puts our soldiers into harm's way daily - telling them not to shoot back, or not even allowing them to be armed. Telling them to share the tent or the compound with people who may even be the enemy.

Ron clarified his remarks for the fools that just fly off the handle and presume he just hates America.

Who was around when the remark was made? What was the previous discussion about? What was the context? What kind of man is Ron Paul?



christiancon Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:25 PM
You can interpret it as anything you want. You worship this guy- fine. You say you dont fine. I believe he is a farce on foreign policy and too many Americans Conservative and otherwise feel the same. The point is mute- there is no agreement. Have to agree to disagree on this one. Endless argumentation isnt needed,
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:35 PM
That's the thing, when a person is more consistent though public life, it's a lot more likely our interpretation is correct.

I worship no man. Lie all you want to protect your constructed point of view.

It's all just another pound of evidence on top of a mountain of proof that republicans really don't care at all about our laws, our freedoms, our rights, and our ability to control the world as any tinhorn dictator wannabe. They would much rather vote for a man they think can magically fix the job market and our economy while keeping every other nation from stepping outta line (kind of like a messiah or something).
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:36 PM
Written poorly. But you know what I mean.
Becca in TX Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:57 PM
Fuzzy-I DID pay attention to how he votes. I noticed that when our kids were overseas and under assault, RON PAUL VOTED AGAINST supplying them with what they needed. It's okay to disagree with the war, and honest people can have honest disagreements, but you lost the vote and you're at war-you have to take care of the young men and young women who volunteered and are OVER THERE fighting. As far as I was concerned, that was an unforgivable vote and spoke volumes about Ron Paul's TRUE opinion of the military and war regardless of what he says. That's when I finally gave up on him completely and refused to vote for him again-and I told him so.
Becca in TX Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 3:59 PM
Fuzzy-If Ron Paul is so "incorruptible", why did he grab all of those earmarks for the Dim section of his district. You don't think vote buying is corrupt?
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:06 PM
Becca -

I wonder what happened to my colleagues who voted with me as I opposed every war supplemental request under the previous administration. It seems, with very few exceptions, they have changed their position on the war now that the White House has changed hands. I find this troubling. As I have said while opposing previous war funding requests, a vote to fund the war is a vote in favor of the war. Congress exercises its constitutional prerogatives through the power of the purse.

This conference report, being a Washington-style compromise, reflects one thing Congress agrees on: spending money we do not have. So this “compromise” bill spends 15 percent more than the president requested, which is $9 billion more than in the original
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:06 PM
Senate version. Included in this final version — in addition to the $106 billion to continue the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq — is a $108 billion loan guarantee to the International Monetary Fund, allowing that destructive organization to continue spending taxpayer money to prop up corrupt elites and promote harmful economic policies overseas.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 6:10 PM
Your earmarks comment betrays your lack of understanding of how the system currently works. Earmark money is already tagged to be spent - it's a race for who gets to be the one to spend it in his district. It is essentially already spent and on the books. You can't just NOT spend it.

Better to direct where it goes than watch it get used for some unconstitutional cause or project.

And no man is incorruptible. That statement betrays you as well. Because you know we both know that.
Fuzzy2 Wrote: Feb 05, 2013 7:40 PM
Paul continues..

As Americans struggle through the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, this emergency supplemental appropriations bill sends billions of dollars overseas as foreign aid. Included in this appropriation is $660 million for Gaza, $555 million for Israel, $310 million for Egypt, $300 million for Jordan, and $420 million for Mexico. Some $889 million will be sent to the United Nations for “peacekeeping” missions. Almost one billion dollars will be sent overseas to address the global financial crisis outside our borders and nearly $8 billion will be spent to address a “potential pandemic flu.”

In light of the fallout over former Rep. Ron Paul's asinine statements about murdered Navy SEAL Chris Kyle yesterday, Senator Rand Paul told Breitbart the following:

“Chris Kyle was a hero like all Americans who don the uniform to defend our country. Our prayers are with his family during this tragic time.”

Ron Paul doubled down on his statements from Twitter yesterday on his Facebook page:

As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend's violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences...