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The War on Drugs: Because Prohibition Worked So Well

cognitivedissident Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 12:54 AM
If we decriminalize murder maybe the murder rate will drop too! Stossels argument has more holes than a junkies arm. His liberal roots are apparent. Blame the system for reprehensible behavior. Totally devoid of personal responsibility. Make a choice to break the law and you risk your freedom. Pretty clear cut to me.
SMyles Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 3:20 PM
cognitivedissident. At least you chose the right name.
cognitivedissident Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 11:28 PM
I work in impoverished inner city as an emt. I see how drugs destroy the community. I hear the stories from families who live in fear of the violence. Sons lost to the violence of gangs. The rampant theft. Home invasions of the elderly. Innocents shot during drive by. Malnourished children due to parents wasting money on drugs instead of buying food. People murdered for $50 owed to a dope dealer.
Parker01 Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 7:21 AM
That's a pretty convoluted attempt at sounding, "logical." Murder is outlawed and seen as immoral because the state has a duty to protect and defend the constitutional rights of its citizens, "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness." If you or I murder someone, we are depriving them of all of these inalienable rights.
If you or I grow poppies in our backyard, harvest the opium in them and go into our kitchen and use the opium we deprive no one of anything but perhaps ourselves. As for your other 'argument'; it sounds eerily like, "It's the Law!" This merely excuses a government acting outside of its lawful authority which is nothing but Tyranny. It's no different than trespass. Perhaps if 'government' outlaws churches we should all bend?
MatthewlovesAyn Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 8:07 AM
Joseph64 Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 11:09 AM
But when you use your opium and then in a confused and disoriented state get in your car and kill someone, then it does hurt someone else and the rest of us have a right to stop you from doing that.
Joseph64 Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 11:09 AM
But when you use your opium and then in a confused and disoriented state get in your car and kill someone, then it does hurt someone else and the rest of us have a right to stop you from doing that.
SMyles Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 3:18 PM
Uh no you don't. Think about what you're saying. Do you really like living in a society that can punish someone simply because they have the potential to do harm in the future? In the case of driving, just the premise alone assumes that we are are equally qualified drivers which is nonsense. There are thousands of reasons a driver could be potentially dangerous. There are good drivers and very bad ones. But until they commit a traffic violation and there are more than enough laws regarding driving a motor vehicle, they're guilty of nothing. Same goes for drinking alcohol. The legal levels are so low now that's it's essentially a backdoor prohibition.
Darrell38 Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 1:27 AM

So, from your response, I guess you believe that Singapore has it right-- caning for minor transgressions as chewing gum, and prison terms for disparaging the government.

Furthermore, your line of reasoning is not dissimilar to the old saw "If we outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns."

You miss the point entirely.
Origanalist Again Wrote: Aug 29, 2012 1:25 AM
I've seen some pretty reprehensible behavior from drunks, should we start a new war on alcohol?

If not, why not?
Forty years ago, the United States locked up fewer than 200 of every 100,000 Americans. Then President Nixon declared war on drugs. Now we lock up more of our people than any other country -- more even than the authoritarian regimes in Russia and China.

A war on drugs -- on people, that is -- is unworthy of a country that claims to be free.

Unfortunately, this outrage probably won't be discussed in Tampa or Charlotte.

The media (including Fox News) run frightening stories about Mexican cocaine cartels and marijuana gangs. Few of my colleagues stop to think that this is...

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