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The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

Cleombrotus2011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 3:43 PM
Ah, the thread is descending into interdenominational chaos. Time for me to move on.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 4:36 PM



You think discussing Christian truth versus anti-catholic slander is mere chaos?

How else do we defend truth, Cleo?

Cleombrotus2011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 4:54 PM
Dreadnaught, In the spirit of good natured levity, I'm tempted to quote Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men but I know you take your Roman Catholicism seriously and probably wouldn't appreciate the joke.

However, to answer your question, the object of these sorts of things are seldom about "finding the truth" as much as they are about defending one's position. They're not the same thing.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 5:42 PM

You go ahead and take Jack Nicholson's word. I didn't want you to surrender to me. I'm a sinner like you.

But I'm not a heretic, or an apostate, nor anathema. In Galatians 1, you can read what Paul said about heretics. Those who opposed the Catholic Church, Cleo.

Fabius Cunctator Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 4:00 PM
RE: Cleombrutus2011 3:43 11/16/2012
RE: "Chaos"
My response:
What you see as "chaos" is really a debate to find the truth. If you know the truth, tell us and prevent chaos.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 4:39 PM



To Cleo as well as Rich, it means so little that they are "denominationals." Why not finally face it; Christ never founded a single denominational sect. He did found the Catholic Church of the apostles. THEY are insisting on their chaos!

A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...