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Revealed: The Newest, Secret Tactic by the American Federation of Teachers to Get You to Cough Up More Cash

clawrence Wrote: Sep 23, 2012 11:48 AM
In regards to education...blame the students. Sure, teachers, the unions, the facilities, the lack of choice plays into our low education results. However, if the students have no desire to learn, how can anything change that? Go to a poor school. Most students do not give two shits about learning.
faultroy Wrote: Sep 23, 2012 3:41 PM
Don't blame the students--they are the least guilty. A dog acts like he is trained to act. If he is left to run wild, that is the way he will be. The problem is actually YOU. You allow this dysfunction to exist. If you really demanded change, it would change. But since it does not directly impact you, you move on to things that do.
PhillupSpace2 Wrote: Sep 23, 2012 4:11 PM
You do have a point, faultroy, Americans are just not into fixing things. They could have changed many of these conditions before they got beyond the point of no return,
They instead just let others decide what is taught in school, who teachess it and what the rules will be; just leave me alone with my American Idol, my football game, my Government provided Cell Phone, food stamps, rent subsidies. Heck, I don't even have to fix a sandwich for my kids, they eat ar school where Government jobs are provided to buy and prepare food for Needy Children which, in Chicago means 86% of ALL children!

Those providing the two meals a day (incidently, that is all I eat) are of course UNION DUES PAYING WORKERS with BENEFITS also!
Jerome49 Wrote: Sep 23, 2012 1:49 PM
If kids grow up in a home where there is no father, no discipline or concern about what their kids do or don't do, most likely that kid is going to fail, no matter where he/she goes to school. If parents don't give a damn about their kids learning, neither will the kids. It's next to impossible for any teacher to motivate kids coming from these backgrounds. Other kids can be motivated and this is where good teachers are needed. Grammer schools should refuse to promote students who can't read at their grade levels and put them in smaller remedial reading classes until they come up to par.
Doug3370 Wrote: Sep 23, 2012 11:54 AM
The fact is that changing the principle of a bad school can make a big difference. More of a difference, if that principle has some say in which teachers stay and which teachers go. The whole fight in DC over Michelle Rhee was about what mattered: the students, or the union? The voters chose the union. Over their own children.

Education reform cannot annul the damage done by a disruptive or unsupportive home situation. But the same students, in the same building, with mostly the same teachers, can make far more progress than they now make given the right principle and some help, guidance, and occasionally, tough love, for their teachers.

Kevlar wrote: Lots of us owe our love of numbers to our Public School Education.

40 percent is the drop-out rate for Chicago Public School Children

40 percent is how many Chicago Public School Teachers won’t send their kids to any public school…not even in Suburbia

40 percent of Chicago Public School 8th Graders rated “basic” and 36 percent rated “below basic” so nearly 80% were not proficient in reading

40 thousand dollars – average household income of Chicago Tax Payers ----- well over 100 thousand is the average household income of Chicago Public School Teachers


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