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Has Christianity Become Intolerable?

Cindy35 Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 9:14 AM
We live under the New Testament. The Old Testament they were under the Law. The New Testament we are under God's Grace. So we have the freedom to do whatever we want, but as a Christian we try to do what God would want.
Nevirim Wrote: Sep 28, 2012 12:05 AM
make her less guilty of the act. Nor was Jesus writing in the dirt those things that condemned those wanting to cast the "first stone" for they were not without sin either. The Grace she received was forgiveness even though Jesus knew she was guilty. But without Jesus and His sacrifice for our sins we stand exposed to the Law with will condemn all sinners.
Nevirim Wrote: Sep 28, 2012 12:02 AM
1050 commandments in the New Testament. All of this applies as "The Law" remember Jesus said this to those who are His disciples, "If you love me Obey my commandments. Question? Which ones? All of them that apply to you. If your not a Levite, then some apply and others do not, or a Priest, or a male or female. You have to keep them in context within the scriptures and understand how they apply. As far as the women caught in adultery, the Law in Leviticus states that both parties were to be brought forth for judgment, the Pharisees only brought the women. Whether they set her up to commit the act to get Jesus to judge her, as they wanted her to be judged as they deemed fit, but without the other party there could be no judgment. That didn't
Nevirim Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 11:46 PM
to one's faith in Jesus. But Jesus did not see it that way. He called the Law Holy and Righteous, but man was totally incapable of obeying the Torah, and the Law. That's why he began with sacrifices of animals their life given as a innocent creature to a sinful person. But what many did not realize was that Jesus was the personal representation of "All" the sacrifices. It is for this reason He came and declared that it was His sacrifice that forgave sin, rather than simply covering over sin for another year. The Term the Law is not something that should be so difficult to understand there are 281 times the phrase The Law is mention in the scriptures. There are 613 commandments in the Law the within the Old Testament, and there are another
Nevirim Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 11:34 PM
The Law, began when God told Adam and Eve not to eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He said in the "Day you eat thereof, you shall surely die. It was clear that Mankind died that day, and the promise of the "Seed of the Woman" would crush the Head of the Serpent. The Law began when God said Let there be, and it was. Law in Hebrew or Torah is the commands given by God to all of his creation. The Ten Commandments are not just the Ten Commandment, or the Ten Words as Jews put it. The Law, or Torah comprises all of God's Commandments and in saying that, they begin in Genesis and end in the Book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. For most people they see the Law as commandments given to the Jewish people and they no longer apply
Otho Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 1:39 PM
Was that forgiveness a violation of the law? Yes. Was it a violation of God's Law? No. A big difference, one that I would think you as a "scholar" would understand. I mean, if a poor lay-person such as myself can understand it, what is preventing you?

"None is so blind as he who WILL not see."
Otho Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 1:37 PM
Nevirim, I'm a little late to this conversation, so I hope you're still around...

Please now define "The Law", this phrase you keep tossing about. The last I knew, "The Law" was the Ten Commandments. The rest of the laws and rules were made up for the times, and changed with the times. When a woman "caught" in adultery was brought to Jesus for condemnation, He did not condemn her, but forgave her. Then (and this is most often left out by "scholars" such as yourself) He told her to "Go and sin no more."
DCM in FL Wrote: Sep 27, 2012 10:31 AM
Cindy's got it right. You're just attempting to take your false conclusion and twist evidence to lead up to it.
There has been a demonstrable move away from Judeo-Christian faith and practice in Europe for a number of years. Just ask British hoteliers Peter and Hazelmary Bull.

What was once respected as authoritative is now considered Victorian, and what was widely embraced as a moral guide has been dismissed with the morals in which it guided people…all in the name of tolerance, mind you.

And so the Bulls have experienced the irony of ironies that Christianity is being forced out of the room by those who claim tolerance as their guiding principle.

They used to be poked fun at...