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The War Over America's Past

Chuck652 Wrote: May 25, 2010 10:19 PM
It is vitally important for American Christians to learn the intellectual origins of the secular assumptions the Liberals have foisted on an ill-informed people.

Their assumptions have been subtley incorporated into Western conciousness and accepted uncritically as fact due to the historical and Biblical ignorance of the Church.

While we've been having bean suppers, they've been undermining the foundations since the Enlightenment.

We had better wake up. Hopefully, the efforts in Texas are a beginning of the pushback.

Recommended reading: "Total Truth", by Nancy Pearcey.

"The 5000 Year Leap" by W. Cleon Skousen
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The War Over America's Past

Chuck652 Wrote: May 25, 2010 8:25 PM
"You seem to miss my point. I realize that the Founders didn't intend to create an anti-religious document any more than a religious one. The larger point is that religion didn't enter into the equation one way or the other."

Respectfully, you are missing MY point. And proving it at the same time.

The Founders would have been as incapable of separating their religious convictions from their intellectual and political ideas as you seem incapable of connecting them. I suspect that is due to the fact that you have none, or at least none that can be cataloged, and are thus projecting your biases onto people who would have no idea of what you're talking about or from where you're deriving your assumptions.

I wonder if...
"Nothing is crueler than Mr Prager subjecting us to his bewilderingly bad columns."

Someone holding a gun to your head?
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The War Over America's Past

Chuck652 Wrote: May 25, 2010 12:27 PM
"They knew the consequences of granting favored status to religion generally or to certain sects."

I question the provenance of that assumption as to their motives in this instance.

It is much more likely they were operating under two connected assumptions: one, they, unlike we today, took for granted that the philosophical millieu in which they lived did not advance itself through legislative means and therefore was not necessary to include provisions for it other than to prevent the central government from assuming that role, and two: they understood that what they were crafting was for the advancement of civil order not ecclesiastical.

The mistake moderns seem to make in analyzing the seemingly deliberate...
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The War Over America's Past

Chuck652 Wrote: May 25, 2010 11:34 AM
Recommended reading and a challenge:

If you read "The 5000 Year Leap" by W. Cleon Skousen, I'll read anything you recommend as an alternative.

Deal?
Hitler gave an autographed copy of the complete works of Freidrich Neitzsche to his good friend Benito Mussolini.

He knew which worldview informed his politics.


Even if you don't.
Matt 12:43-45

"When the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he passes through waterless places seeking rest, but he finds none. Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. Then he goes and brings with him seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. SO SHALL IT ALSO BE WITH THIS EVIL GENERATION."

RSV
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The War Over America's Past

Chuck652 Wrote: May 25, 2010 1:42 AM
isn't it?

The battle line is becoming clearer and clearer with each passing day.

It really does come down to choosing which worldview one is going to believe: the secular humanistic perspective or the Biblical perspective.

There. are. no. other. choices.

"Choose this day whom you will serve"
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South Korea, North Korea, Israel and Iran

Chuck652 Wrote: May 24, 2010 10:52 AM
"Why is it so hard to people to realize Israel does not act in America's best interests?"

Who ever said they did or even should?

Our interests, however, coincide.

Think much?
interesting comments.

Thank you, John C. and claire for your informative additions.
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