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Going over the Moral Cliff

Chris from Kalifornia Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 9:54 AM
I have to wonder about these so called "clergy and pastors" who proclaim in favor of same sex marriage. Have they never read their bibles? Do they not take the words there for gospel? There are several places where sex between men/men and woman/woman is condemned. Sodom was destroyed for it's sinful nature. Where the heck do they think we get the word "sodomy"?
David3036 Wrote: Jan 24, 2013 12:46 AM
Lot, the supposed "good guy" in the Sodom story, gave his virgin daughters to be raped by the mob, which would get him 20 years to life today. His wife, who did nothing more than turn around to look, got turned into salt.

And you still believe there are moral lessons to be learned from that story?
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 12:04 PM
Sodom was not destroyed because of homosexuality. This is fairly well-established among those who know the history of the bible and study it closely. And yes, the bible does condemn homosexuality in some areas. It condemns and condones a number of other things that are not acceptable in modern society. And numerous clergy and pastors reconcile this by accepting that the bible, divinely inspired or not, was written down by fallible, imperfect men from primative, pre-modern cultures. Why are they wrong?
DCM in FL Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 12:37 PM
Anybody who really understands homosexuality sufficiently knows that it has far more against it than what's in the Bible. I know I've seen enough of what it does to people to oppose legitimizing it based on that alone.
DCM in FL Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 10:40 AM
Ever read their Bibles? How about just having good old common sense?
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 12:04 PM
Common sense is not always common, unfortunately. Anyone who has ever studied quantum mechanics will tell you that.

In my book, When the Crosses are Gone, I warn that when a culture abandons thinking and logic in favor of feelings and emotions, it is doomed to destruction. Although emotions are a very important part of the human psyche, when they control every aspect of life, morality becomes a victim.

Today, there is widespread agreement that morality in America is deteriorating with breathtaking speed.

On one hand, we face a belligerent and intimidating lobby that desires the breakdown of biblical morality. On the other hand, a docile public—as well as church leadership—is terrified to stand up for truth lest...