There is no verification method in the bill to assure that illegals do not recieve benifits. That's true, and there never will be ANY assurance that the illegals won't get treated w/o Heath Insurance, just as they do now. What's completely UNtrue is that HR3200 ALLOWS the illegals participation in government heath care. So, you've been Bushitted on TWO counts. Deny?

What an outrage. The Feds violate our Constitution again. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ashcr oft-rights5-2009sep05,0,2169737.story Preserve our Constitutional rights!

All 26 of them here: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/twenty-six-lies-about-hr- 3200/

Mindfugged and in denial to the end. Now after admitting to being lied to about HR3200 not excluding illegals, they say it doesn't matter. Rediculous! So now Wilson's a hero for some silly amendment that MAY verify their ineligibility for government run health insurance. SO WHAT! Deny this: "Regardless of any amendment that might be passed that screens out illegals from government provided insurance, the illegals will still get health care as they do now even without any health insurance."

What disingenuous crap you spew today, after I proved that on YOUR link from Saturday, in paragraph two, proves that illegals are not eligible for government provided health insurance with Obamacare. You make the ridiculous assumption that the Health Insurance application does nothing to screen those who don't qualify when it requires SS numbers and the disclosure of your last IRS 1040.

Mindfugged and in denial to the end. Now after admitting to being lied to about HR3200 not excluding illegals, they say it doesn't matter. Rediculous! So now Wilson's a hero for some silly amendment that MAY verify their ineligibility for government run health insurance. SO WHAT! Deny this: "Regardless...

You still rant that no one has answered your post from 2:35, yet I've answered you directly twice, and numerous times to other here. 1. Wilson lied, proven fact and it's been admitted by Jo's link earlier. HR3200 does not allow participation to illegals. So now you Cons backpeddle by saying there no verification for illegals to get into the Government run plan. One more time, that's true, but you've STILL been lied to, and it just doesn't matter, because Wilson knows they'll get treated w/o health insurance just as they do now! So, until you Cons come up with an amendment denying health care to all illegals WITHOUT ANY INSURANCE, all you're doing is engaging in mental masturbation. Prove me wrong!

Still waiting for a responsive rebuttal FTR that addresses these inconvenient truths re: "redistribution of wealth" 1. 20 years ago, the American CEO's made 30X the average worker. It's now over 300X, and that doesn't include unreported income that now has been scammed from K401 retirement accounts that now sits in Swiss Banks. 2. Medical inflation has risen 113% over the last decade. Most workers can't afford their own health insurance when their employer drops group coverage, or drops their employees. 3. 47 million uninsured Americans still get treated for emergency care, go bankrupt trying to repay. All that unreimbursed medical care is passed on to those still insured...

Average Doc's salary? http://absolutelyhealthcare.salary.com/salarywizard/layout scripts/swzl_compresult.asp?jobcode=HC07000050&jobtitle=Phy sician+-+Cardiology+-+Invasive&jobtitlecomp=&narrowcode=HC0...

Admit that you've been had by Bushit, that Obamacare did (does) prohibit illegals from participating, and that Wilson is a slimy dirtbag for spinning the truth, along with "Family Values" Gov. Sanford from the same swampwater state. Now as for your question as to whether the illegals will get treated as they do now? Yessssssssss, I already made that point. With or without Obamacare, with or w/o the SAVE amendment, the illegals will continue to be treated as they do now. DO YOU GET IT NOW? Wilson has been a freak show for the droolers. You've been had!

Sorry to tell you chum, but you've been horribly misinformed about Obamacare allowing the participation of illegal aliens to the public option part of the bill. Have you read the bill? Whats you SOURCE for that misinformation? Here's the facts in Section 245. Read, then got back to me. http://www.defendyourhealthcare.us/images/BILLS-111hr3200I H.pdf