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Chris110 Wrote: Oct 12, 2012 4:13 AM
I noticed that Joe Biden in the debate, and also Stephanie Cutter have verbalized the same false narrative. The false narrative being that Romney was the first to respond to the Libya attacks where Americans were killed and so in being critical was trying to score cheap and inappropropriate political points. The truth of course is that Romney's criticism they are referring to happened before the Libya attack was known. There were protests and rioting and flags being burned at the Cairo embassy and the embassy issued an apology and this apology is what Romney criticized and rightly so.
Jeffrey403 Wrote: Oct 12, 2012 7:13 AM
Chris110:
You are absolutely correct. Thank you for clarifying what Romney was doing. He was, as you corrrctly state, criticizing the apology issued by the Embassy in Cairo.
Thank you again.
jimmylynn Wrote: Oct 12, 2012 6:31 AM
I thought Romney was criticizing the fact that the Obama Administration and the State Dept. came out immediately apologizing again for America. What should have been clearly a "Free Speech" situation that, if as Clinton asserted the U.S. government had no part in, then it was inappropriate for them to publicly and internationally apologize for an independent video. The criticism was about the way the Obama foreign and Middle East policy was one of always apologizing for America.
Chris110 Wrote: Oct 12, 2012 4:14 AM
I don't think Biden and Cutter are both this stupid, so I conclude they are intentionally deceiving, and this must be a false narrative that is being agreed to by some in the Obama Camp (because I have heard it now 3 times) , to be pushed regularly as to hope people believe it. I have yet to see someone call them to the table on it, if they keep pushing it, a network or someone needs to call them out on the lie.

Saying that the White House also disavowed the apology isn't enough, it needs to be pointed out they are lying and specifically saying that Romney's critical first response was to the Libya attacks.
Rick3767 Wrote: Oct 12, 2012 5:00 AM
I mostly agree, however, I don't think one can overestimate the intellectual vacuity of Joe or Steph.

It was crystal clear tonight that Vice President Biden was determined not to reprise the president's passive performance in Denver.  In that, he succeeded.  He also succeeded in interrupting his opponent constantly, repeatedly laughing at strange moments, and playing the 'loud anger' card frequently.  Rep. Paul Ryan's serenity in the face of the Vice President's behavior was almost supernatural.  On actual talking points, the two men battled to a draw.  Ryan excelled on economic issues, gave a fabulous answer on abortion and closed strong.  He also held his own on foreign policy.  Biden scored on Afghanistan and by pointing out...