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The GOP and Round Two

chicaree Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 2:40 PM
Republicans are all about cutting spending. The government doesn't spend money on buying or building things except for military warships and planes. So all that money goes into the pockets of people. Cutting spending hurts people. The old as they will get less in social security payments to have to wait longer for it & medicare. People working for the government will loose their jobs so they will stop buying stuff and buying stuff is what fires up our economic engine. I read one report that said most people going into retirement have on average $30,000.00 in savings. That can be wiped out with just one illness. My husband stepped on one of my sewing needles and drove it deeply into his foot. The cost of removing it was $15,000.00.
The Teleprompter Speaks Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 3:38 PM
Again, a stupid, stupid argument.
psydoc Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 2:48 PM
Spending cuts are going to happen whether or not our politicians have the integrity to do it before it is too late. I am not sure it is not too late, already.

Everyone who produces nothing and have been riding to easy street on the backs of the producers are going to suffer, as well. There isn't enough money to continue spending, chicaree.
chicaree Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 2:54 PM
Start cutting after the recovery becomes stronger. Yes cutting will and must happen but when it is still tittering is not the time for massive layoffs. They have the Simpson -Bowles out line that will bring the deficit into manageable levels. Give it a little bit more time. But don't still back a insist on cut cut cut because cutting is hurts people. More so than weathly paying a larger share. I can pay more taxes. I would not object to paying more taxes.
psydoc Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 3:03 PM
There is a lot they could do immediately; for example, stop replacing grubrmnt workers who quit or retire. Stop paying new hires above the average for the same, or similar employment in the private sector. Index SS payments and medicare. Stop borrowing money out of the private sector economy. Stop spending money we do not have on useless alternative energy projects...on and on. All immediate ways of cutting spending without hurting the recovery.

Another MUST is stop picking winners and losers in the private sector. Every company should thrive or wither on its own merits.
The Teleprompter Speaks Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 3:39 PM
The states that cut government spending are better off than the states that didn't. You're complete bassackwards on this.

Cut spending, reduce regulations, get the economy going again.
psydoc Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 3:48 PM
Excuse me? What did you think I meant?
GTA Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 5:20 PM
There IS no recovery, Chicaree. The number of people who want to work but cannot find a job has been rising steadily for about 8 years straight.

If we measured unemployment now like we did during the Great Depression, unemployment would be about 22%. It averaged 25% during the Great Depression. The genius government doesn't count people who would love to work but have simply given up looking because no jobs are to be found.

We have been given an illusory "recovery" in the housing market with interest rates that are actually NEGATIVE if you take inflation into account.

Look around you. There is no recovery.
psydoc Wrote: Jan 02, 2013 5:39 PM
GTA, if the grubrmnt did not double count dollars, and reported the true unemployment rate, we would be in a textbook depression.
Thasic Wrote: Jan 03, 2013 2:15 AM
If the fed keeps spending the economy will never get stronger and by your standards there wil never be any cuts. This is not rocket science, it's very simple math. If you spend more than you make you go bankrupt. The government can not raise enough revenue via taxes to cover all it's spending, even with draconian tax rates. There is just not enough wealth generated to cover all the expenses. What will happen is the world will no longer have faith in the dollar and there will be a monetary collapse. Be ready for it.

President Obama won the first round of his second term, but thanks to Mitch McConnell the beating wasn’t as severe as it could have been.

The period between the election and the turn of the calendar was dominated by the president, with Speaker John Boehner as his foil. The Speaker always seemed to assume the president was negotiating in good faith, even as the campaign events continued, and even as he was pummeled day and night by the president and his surrogates in the MSM.

The collapse of the Speaker's and the GOP’s ability to make an argument was complete...