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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 5:22 PM
I'm sure I have a difficult time comprehending how you believe men in the military cannot and shouild have to control themselvs.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 5:19 PM
Wow....that is quite a remarkable summary.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 4:42 PM
"Now they have to worry about the sexual proclivities and offending the person next to them." So is it your contention that they should not have to worry about their behavior and should be allowed to act as their primal desires dictate? Yes, having women in the military is needlessly complicating matters. But that doesn't mean soldiers should be exempt from having to behave themselves. It sounds to me like you think it does.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 3:17 PM
Marek, I agree with everything you say. I also continue to point out its not the point of the discussion. Regardless of the wisdom of having women in certain roles in the military, it does not excuse sexual assault. Period. We can agree that the women shouildn't be there, but if they are, they should not have to put up with sexual assault. That, too, is common sense.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 2:27 PM
"While rape is wrong, that doesn't mean that mixing Man and Women into same tent makes any sense what so ever. Soldier maybe trained but they are STILL human beings." I agree 100% but its still not a justification for sexual assault,is it? And yet, that is the argument you and others are periliously close to making.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 1:59 PM
So you are condoning sexual assault if it happens in the military? I know you aren't intending to. But it does seem like many are conflating the question of whether or not women belong in the military with how the military should respond to sexual assault. Try arguing the latter without referring to the former.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 1:53 PM
We can (and should) have legitamate discussions about the roles women can have in the military. BUT that does not make sexual assault acceptable nor should it be an excuse for it.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 1:02 PM
So you are condoning sexual assault in the military?
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 1:01 PM
Marek, I disagree with nothing that you said. However, I noticed that you didn't actually respond to my point - which is this: Regardless of the circumstances....sexual assault is wrong and is a crime. The circumstances do NOT justfy it. You give good reasons why women should not be in certain roles in the military. But not good reasons for allowing sexual assaults to go unpunished.
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Cardinal5671 Wrote: Jun 12, 2013 12:32 PM
So why are you condoning sexual assault in the military? It seems to me the greatest military in the world should be expected and able to control its behavior.
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