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Pre-K Won't Help Kids

Capd4d Wrote: Feb 26, 2013 8:43 AM
Of my 3 sons only one went to college. The other 2 went to pre-school and by high school had lost interest. Then there's that song: "When I look back on all the cr'p I learned in high school, it's a wonder I can think at all."
Rondoman Wrote: Feb 26, 2013 9:02 AM
There has never been a need for school education beyond the 8th grade. Apprenticeships can teach a child much more effectively than book "larnin". Most of what is taught in school is either redundant from earlier years or is propaganda. Even surgeons learn through apprenticeship, not from books. Most college teaching is self-taught from after-class study, and most of that has no use in the workplace. I asked my civil engineer son if he ever used anything he was taught in college. He just grinned and said, "No."
dahni Wrote: Feb 26, 2013 12:07 PM
Too bad about you not being educated beyond 8th grade, maybe. It depends on what you do for a living. I prefer that my surgeon be well trained and licensed, though. I prefer my mechanic to be well trained and licensed. My first job out of college was as a rocket scientist working on ICBM-type missiles. I think maybe 6 years of college and 2 years of apprentice work was necessary for what I did. C'mon, give education a little break.
Rondoman Wrote: Feb 26, 2013 4:54 PM
I have a degree in physics and am not a beneficiary of what I spoke. Having spoken to college professors about the growing stupidity of entering freshmen who do not have even the elocution ability of 6th graders of 50 years ago, I have ample support for my assertion. Most education, so-called, is nothing more that re-indoctrination with most actual learning done outside the classroom in the privacy of the home or dormitory. Fifteen years of intensive apprenticeship, while being paid for it, is much more beneficial and instructive than five or six years of college lectures.
President Obama ended his State of the Union speech on a warm and fuzzy note by calling for pre-K programs for almost all children. The best thing he could do for pre-kindergarten children is to make sure he doesn't hang trillions of dollars of debt around their necks, but that isn't the route he is taking.

Instead, Obama wants to provide government daycare for all preschoolers who live in households where the income is below approximately $47,100. He doesn't call it daycare or babysitting (which is a more accurate term); he calls it early childhood education.

Early childhood education means programs for...