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Time For Sensitivity Training

Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:09 PM
American homosexuals are the new lepers..."of course you hate us we're loathsome" We experienced it in California a few years ago. We had Proposition 8 on the ballot to clearly define marriage as Elton John and Barack Obama and your mother defined it. Everywhere you looked, homosexuals were sporting the bumper sticker "Prop Hate" We must learn how it feels to be consumed by self hatred and tolerate these actions. But we should not become enablers. Today, a few homosexuals have lost all gay pride and beg for straight nomenclature. Encouraging new marital definitions feeds this self hatred inherent within homosexuals. We need to get back to Gay Pride.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:41 PM
I'd say modern homosodomites are pretty different from the examples of biblical lepers.

Lepers were interested in a cure - they also stayed away from others to avoid spreading their disease. Leprosy was a naturally occuring disease without any known cure.

Homosodomites don't want a "cure," they want to convince everyone else that they are perfectly normal and that their behavior is healthy. In other words, the perverts want to spread their chosen deviancy throughout society. Homosodomy is a chosen behavior.
O'Pinyon Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:49 PM
Yes, and yet we still need to speak the truth to them, as God leads us.
Some will find hope and repent and enter into a life of discipleship, loving Jesus more than the sandy foundation on which they have built their lives. Others will not want to hear the truth and will try to harm us. Then, we may "Count it all joy" to follow our rejected Lord.
Andy544 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:29 PM
Camber, leprosy is used throughout the Bible as a visible manifestation of the destructive effects of sin in a human life. True Christians do NOT 'hate' anyone. The love of God motivates those who have His Spirit living within them. To treat someone as a "Leper" and call them "loathsome" is not the love that Jesus has demonstrated towards us. We are ALL sinners, and should be compassionate towards our fellow man. However, 'compassion' does not include 'glossing over' sin, and telling people who are afflicted by a deadly 'disease' that will 'kill them' and send them to hell that what they are doing is "OK". That would be cruel DECEPTION, not love.
O'Pinyon Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:13 PM
Jesus loved the lepers, and He loves everyone, including those who practice perversity of every kind.
That is way He calls us to repentance, instead of to expressions of pride, for whatever we do that leads away from the Father, into death.
Raven7 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:23 PM
Yes . . . but there is a difference between love and affirmation. It is quite possible to love someone while disagreeing with or refusing to affirm behaviors (at which point you are ridiculed as an evil "homophobe").
O'Pinyon Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 2:42 PM
You are absolutely correct.
And I have used the example of John the Baptist to show that we may expect worse treatment than mere labels, if we are followers of the Crucified One.
Christians must not fear rejection to the point that we do no longer reach out in love to hurt, angry people.
du2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 3:41 PM
There is no comparison to a disfiguring infection and a sexual orientation (of which YOU have a sexual orientation too).
Many ancient cultures, misunderstanding afflictions and forms of gender expression, would quickly dismiss them as the result of demons. It's only a sign of a fearful, ignorant primitive that you STILL refer to homosexuality in the terms that you do, and define it the way you do. Disregarding anything or anyone way ahead of you on this issue so wrongfully.
There is more to this than refusing to affirm or disagreement. We're talking about public policy that's damaging to gay people for NO rational and good reason.
The policies ARE wrongful and dismissing that truth, doesn't make them less so.
du2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 3:47 PM
You keep forcing Biblical culture standards on gay people, and discussing them in those terms, when you don't have to live by them yourself and WOULDN'T.
It's impossible to have an honest conversation with people such as yourself THIS intellectually dishonest. And you are.
The more you keep using outmoded and outdated references, and inaccurate comparisons, the less credibility you have. It shows you have none to make to illustrate your point, much less prove it.
A true Christian, would insist on gay people being treated the way Christians are treated in civil law and public accommodation. And no gay person is insisting on more than that and no less.
All I see are excuses to avoid doing so.
O'Pinyon Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 3:56 PM
We should continue to limit licenses to have sexual intercourse (aka marriage) to:
of Opposite Sex
Two in number
Who are not closely related.
The only change that needs to be made in our marriage laws is to make a marriage much more difficult for one party to dissolve.
Our society, in order to be just, needs to acknowledge the interests of children in having a Mom and a Dad who are married to each other for life.
To have a just and caring society, anything less must be acknowledged as a loss.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:20 PM
homosexuality is an unhealthy,destructive behavior(medically PROVEN),a mental illness(readily apparent),and NOT good for society,any society(recognized over millennia).
it is not to be accommodated,enabled,or encouraged.

medically,homosexuality IS an unhealthy,destructive behavior,as commonly practiced.
there's good medical reason why homos are prohibited from donating blood or organs.
the CDC says that over 50% of new HIV cases in the US are in a group that is less than 2% of the population; male homos. Then there are all the OTHER diseases homos contract at far higher rates than normals.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:21 PM [reuters]
In 2010, 72 percent of the estimated 12,000 new HIV infections in young people occurred in young men who have sex with men, and nearly half of new infections were among young, black males.
( young men who have sex with men are a tiny fraction of the population,yet have the majority of new HIV infections. )

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said one reason for the higher rates of infection among young gay and bisexual men of all races was a higher rate of risky behaviors compared with their heterosexual peers.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:21 PM
According to the report, a large analysis of risk behaviors among high school students revealed that gay and bisexual males are much more likely to have multiple sex partners, to inject illegal drugs and to use alcohol or drugs before sex. They are much less likely to use condoms.
Todd94 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 9:26 PM
Why do you feel that the Marriage standards don't apply to you? Two Consenting adults of opposite sex, proper age and not related closely? Because you know that these standards are true and right you wish to re write the standards to fit your own lusts. That doesn't make your lust good or right in Gods eyes. You wish to change the standards to fit your desires so you will feel better about your behavior. Your self esteem will be good again. But deep in side you will know what all Gay people know to be true. That homosexuality is a sin and wrong to God. You can delude yourself and those around you into this belief but not God. God is clear on this.

Chris Culliver, the San Francisco 49ers player who badmouthed gays last week, will soon begin LGBT sensitivity training. When do the public figures who badmouth conservative Christians begin their sensitivity training?

Back in 2007, basketball player Tim Hardaway received an avalanche of criticism when he said during a radio interview, “I hate gay people. I don’t like to be around gay people. I’m homophobic. I don’t like it. It shouldn’t be in the world for that or in the United States for it. So yeah, I don’t like it.” He too went to sensitivity training and has since emerged as a...