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Obama Adulterates Marriage and Federalism

Cambermeister Wrote: Mar 09, 2013 2:09 PM
David3036 Wrote: 25 minutes ago "Proposition 8 did not amend the state constituion in California" Well, actually, that's exactly what it did David3036. Ask your 'son'. You said; "It simply reversed a decision of the California Supreme Court that granted same-sex couples the right to marry" Not true. The Court did no such thing, nor does the court have that authority. And you said; "Some 18,000 gay couples DID marry between the time the court ruled and the time the voters passed Prop 8" This is the one part you got right. Many of these 'couples' were from out of state but about 12,000 same-sex couples actually got 'married'.
David3036 Wrote: Mar 09, 2013 4:37 PM
However, in California's on-again, off-again flirtation with gay marriage, it WAS the California Supreme Court that struck down Proposition 22, the so-called Knight Initiative or "California DOMA," that was passed in 2000. The state Supreme Court struck it down in 2008 and ruled in favor of same-sex marriage.
Cambermeister Wrote: Mar 09, 2013 6:49 PM
Very close David3036, they did strike down yet another proposition (democracy?) but made no ruling regarding same-sex marriage.
David3036 Wrote: Mar 10, 2013 8:37 PM
Yes, that ruling DID clear the way for same-sex marriage. That's why 18,000 gay couple married between that ruling and the passage of Prop 8.
David3036 Wrote: Mar 09, 2013 4:29 PM
I defer to the California resident on this one. You're right. It WAS a constitutional amendment.
Cambermeister Wrote: Mar 09, 2013 2:39 PM
David3036, we do appreciate your math. After five months, 99% of California homosexuals failed to marry. But I'm confused. As a Californian, I saw them in the street, marching and chanting and carrying on... claiming they'd been waiting to acquire government marriage.
But then they didn't get married.
They lied.
Why did they lie and what did they really want?

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