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I Like Gary Johnson

c136 Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:13 PM
I wouldn't mind if conservatives said, "Hey, I like Gary Johnson, he'd make a better president than Mitt Romney, but he can't win so we should vote for Romney." But instead they trash libertarian thinking candidates. This shows their hypocrisy when they say they support limited government.
tom450 Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:18 PM
The problem is that Gary Johnson CAN'T win...

Do you really want another four years of Obama?

It would be nice if Libertarians came back to the Republican Party where they belong and helped make policy rather than enabling the Party of Slavery to enslave us to socialism...

Corbett_ Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:22 PM
Tom is another person who doesn't understand how the president is elected. Please go read about the electoral college.

BTW, the GOP has made it abundantly clear that they do not want libertarians. Look how Romney treated the delegates who were pledged to Paul...
JustMC Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:23 PM
Tom, are you aware that the libertarians have done this and the GOP has fought them at every turn? Recent case in point, the dirty tricks in Tampa to silence Ron Paul and to prevent his rightfully-earned delegates from being seated. But that's only a recent case, the pattern existed throughout the primaries.

Instead, the GOP establishment showed no interest in listening to the base. But it considers itself entitled to their vote. No thanks. They just played (dirty) chicken with a lot of votes and lost.
JustMC Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:26 PM
Tom, RE: "do you really want another four years of Obama?"

NO!! But Romney won't fix anything. He'll continue big, statist government and destruction of the Constitution and financial ruin. Much like Obama. At the end of which, we'll have ANOTHER Obama swept into office by the Romney mess in 2016.

So, turn your question around. Would you prefer 4 more years of Obama, followed by a chance at real limited government? Or would you prefer an effective 8-12 more years of the same big-government horror we have now?
tom450 Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:26 PM
That's NOT the GOP...

That is the people currently running it...

They do the same to many of us...

But do you really want another four years of Obama?

Can you win?

hahahahaha!
tom450 Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:28 PM
W@e have to get rid of the current leadership...

We do that AFTER we get rid of Obama!

Get your priorities straight!

This will involve actual work BETWEEN elections...

and running good Libertarians as Republican candidates for other offices...
Devita Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:42 PM
JustMC:
Are you kidding me - America will NEVER RECOVER FROM ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA . . . Are you NUTS? I would prefer having someone WHO LOVES AMERICA AT THE HELM OF AMERICA, NOT SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO END AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT. We are now 10th in the world for economic freedom and God only knows how far down this list Obama would like to see us drop - to maybe 100th place on the list - down around Kenya or Venezuela's status.

SO NO, I DON'T WANT TO SEE OBAMA GET ANOTHER FOUR YEARS AND IF YOU DO, YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET . . .
Corbett_ Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 12:48 PM
Tom:

It helps if you tell us who you are addressing. Then we can put your response together with its proper comment.

About changing the GOP leadership, conservatives have been trying to do that since Goldwater. How well has it worked? Romney is the nominee...
anti-neocon Wrote: Sep 19, 2012 1:30 PM
tom, as long as we keep saying the good guy can't win, the good guy can't win. we've got to at least start moving things in the right direction, even if is with a few protest votes against big brother's chosen one. anyway, i will never vote for any candidate who is pro-NDAA, with is taking us in the direction of becoming even more of a police state. without liberty, being american means NOTHING !!
All political candidates call themselves freedom-lovers, but they are not. Neither major party really opposes government control of the economy or of our personal lives. I'm a libertarian because I see the false choice offered by political left and right: Democrats talk about personal liberty; Republicans talk about economic freedom. But what they do once in power belies their words.

I say we're best off if government just leaves us alone to our peaceful cooperation with whomever we please. Let politicians advocate moral behavior. Let them give to charities. But leave government -- which is physical force -- out of it....