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C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 12:07 AM
Why does Mr. Obama need celebrities on stage with him in order to generate a crowd? Romney is getting 30,000 without any celebrities present.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 9:47 AM
You mean like Clint Eastwood having the keynote at the GOP convention....

Jeez, you guys just bend yourselves into pretzels to avoid reality. Stand up straight, quit making stuff up.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 10:08 AM
Bruce: Is that you? Even Springsteen can't help Mr. O get crowds. The curse of aging rockers. They all think the next generation cares. The next generation cares about as much as they care about the typewriter, a curious novelty.

"Mom, who is Bruce Springsteen?"

"Someone who thinks he's more gifted than God."

BTW: No one came to see Clint Eastwood. He was a surprise guest.

Jeez, you guys just bend yourselves into pretzels to avoid reality. Stand up straight, quit making stuff up.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 10:14 AM
You asked why does Obama need celebrities on stage with him---and I asked "Like Eastwood at the convention?" You avoided apologizing for that one, but I'll consider you ashamed.

Obama drew 30,000 in Madison WI the day after his first debate with no celebrities on stage.

Is this that painful for you guys?
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 10:39 AM
Bruce: They closed the school that day and gave the kids free pizza. The college kids had no school that day because of the president.

It's artifact. I know it's painful to you guys that Katie Perry is a bigger draw than Mr. Obama, but that's the fact.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 10:41 AM
BTW: It cost Wisconsin taxpayers at least a quarter of a million dollars to host that event. That's not including the cost of air force 1 and secret service detail etc.....
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:17 PM
They didn't close the U that day---I asked a friend of mine who is a professor in the Econ dept.

Of course rock stars out-draw politicians--if you think that's news, you need to get out more.

When any President, Democrat or Republican, travels to any state in the US, it costs the state money for that visit. If you think it only costs money when Democratic Presidents travel, then I have a used Glenn Beck to sell you...
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:29 PM
Bruce:"When any President, Democrat or Republican, travels to any state in the US, it costs the state money for that visit."

He could've visited off campus. He could've visited at different hours. If you believe he is generating crowds on his own you are the one deceiving yourself. The only way he can win is if he cheats.

"Of course rock stars out-draw politicians"
That's my point, he's using them to build-a-crowd.

C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:34 PM
"The real cost, however, will be for hundreds of police, fire department personnel and emergency medics that will be needed to ensure safety, security and transportation at the event. Those costs will be borne by the City of Madison and other local governments.....The visit is leading the university to close six academic buildings around Bascom Mall for security reasons, and as a result classes and exams in those buildings have to be moved, rescheduled or canceled, said Vince Sweeney, UW-Madison's vice chancellor for university relations. The decision on what to do was left up to individual instructors, he said."

C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:35 PM
"For the September 2010 visit by Obama to the campus for a similar rally with an estimated 26,500 people, the costs were more than $260,000."
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:36 PM
Bruce read this:
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:42 PM
Bruce:"I asked a friend of mine who is a professor in the Econ dept."
Ask your friend if he considers giving 500million dollars to Solyndra an "investment". A company that went bankrupt within 6months never selling a single product. The taxpayers were never reimbursed but Kaiser, an Obama bundler was. Wouldn't your smart friend rather have 500 scientist get grant money of 1million each to dedicate to Research and Development of green energy instead of the charade of progress.

Who is deceived? Why are you voting for this guy? Do you like high gas prices? If you died would you want your child to have an inheritance from you or to assume your debt. If you vote for Obama your child will be burdened with paying your debt.

Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 1:59 PM
You complain that his visit makes them close the U---turns out that's not true.

You complain that his visit costs Wisconsin taxpayers money, and then whine that he should have visited off campus? Off campus won't cost state taxpayers? What a yutz...

If I vote for Obama or Romney, future generations (including my son and daughter) will be paying for our debt. I'm insulting yutzes to call you a yutz...
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:21 PM
"The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous give generously; those the Lord blesses will inherit the land but those he curses will be cut off." Psalm 37: 21-22
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:23 PM
You complain, like any pathetic partisan gasbag, about the cost of Obama's campaign visit to Madison. If Romney wins, in 4 years he'll visit the U, and some pathetic partisan Democrat will complain about the cost to WI taxpayers. You'll think they're sad and pathetic, and you'll look down on them, and you won't remember what its like when you were living in that crouch, annoyed and clinging...
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:40 PM
Bruce: "In order for students to get a ticket for this event (which doesn’t even guarantee entry), the University is requiring them to go to the Obama campaign website, provide contact information, and then click on a button that says “I’m In!” In a very real sense, we are forcing them to become participants in the campaign and express their support for the campaign. This is SOP for a campaign event, but it should not be for the University. Having a president visit as an educational public event is one thing. Forcing students to declare their support for a presidential candidate in order to attend the event on campus is quite another. Should we be in the business of helping a campaign farm thousands of email addresses?"
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:43 PM
"The location of the rally could not be more disruptive. It hardly seems appropriate to shut the central campus down for an entire day, closing offices and seriously disrupting our mission. I have several colleagues who had scheduled exams for Thursday. Surely there were other venues that would pose less disturbance..... I have learned that classified staff will be required to take a vacation or personal day, arrange to work at another location on campus...The University is finessing the central point of this visit. It is not a Presidential visit. It is not a Presidential speech. It is a campaign event. It is a major event when a president visits UW."

An abuse of power.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:45 PM
I agree with you---students should not have to go to the campaign website and declare support to get a ticket to an event if it is sponsored by the U.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:46 PM
If you're causing the disruption and you weren't invited, you pay for it.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:47 PM
You think Obama wasn't invited? Wow....

And lets remember your job is to whine and moan when the next GOP president comes and it costs money that gets paid by the state.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:49 PM
An "abuse of power"??? Or a decision you don't agree with? So many of those decisions people don't agree with get called "treason" or some other stupid term, it's hard to keep the sludge straight.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:53 PM
Here, then, is a look at nine economic facts facing Americans as they head to the polls:
1. Every fifth man in America is out of a job. Black male unemployment is now at the highest rate it has ever been since the U.S. government began collecting statistics on the subject in 1972. Just 56.9 percent of black men over the age of 20 are now working.
2. Every seventh person you pass on the sidewalk now relies on food stamps, a figure that represents 46.7 million Americans.
3. On the last day of President George W. Bush's presidency, gas prices were $1.84 a gallon. Today under President Barack Obama, the average price of a gallon of gas costs $3.56.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:53 PM
4. In 2006 and 2007, 90% of all college graduates found a job. Under Obama, just 56% of college graduates are able to find a job.
5. More than one in four U.S. homeowners are "under water" or owe more than their homes are worth. The housing crisis has destroyed $7 trillion in U.S. household wealth. Another 9.5 million homes are still at risk of default.
6. President Obama has increased the national debt more in three years than George W. Bush did in eight. Under Bush, the debt rose $4.899 trillion in eight years. In three years, the debt has increased by $4.939 trillion under Obama.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 2:55 PM
7. 27 percent of black Americans now live in poverty, a two percent increase since 2009.
8. According to the recent Bureau of Labor Statistics report, the unemployment rate for black Americans now stands at a staggering 14.3 percent, a figure well above the already high national unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.
9. A record 88,921,000 Americans are no longer in the labor force.

Please, Bruce, think of your kids. Stop worshiping a false god. Obama is not the Messiah. Jesus is, and he died for your sins.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 3:23 PM
You need to get a life if you think I'm voting for Obama because I'm "worshiping" him---my goodness, you are really in need of a great deal more contact with the reality-based community.

On the one hand the mouth-breathers on Townhall whine that the Universities are all in the thrall of the liberals and Obama, on the other hand you try with all your meager skills to convince us that the U of Wisconsin didn't invite Obama... You may not realize how lame and pathetic you appear, but the rest of us do.
Srusino Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 3:40 PM
Even Stevie Wonder could not generate a crowed over 250 in support of the present Occupior of The White House.
C.H. Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 3:43 PM
Bruce: It's lame that Wisconsin taxpayers have to fund his trip and his campaign and the police detail and professor's salaries and the administrative costs. If we complain, guys like you say it's not "reality based".

His whole presidency is on display for you to evaluate and still you're breathing the rarified air of Obama's first presidential run.

Who's out of touch with reality? It isn't me.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 3:51 PM
CH---your being unmoored from reality is far greater than just because you complain about the costs of Obama accepting an invitation to have a rally at UW. You won't complain if a GOP president did it, so you're not only lacking in reality, you lack for intellectual honesty.

His whole presidency is on display for all of us to evaluate, and I prefer him to Romney. I've dealt with people like him all my life and I would like nothing better than for the US electorate to tell him "NO!" Maybe----maybe---he'll hear it.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 3:56 PM
So, you're so filled with hate and bile that your ability to reason is this badly disrupted? You think if there was a campaign rally for Obama and Stevie Wonder was appearing, there would be fewer than 250 people show up?

I have a used Glenn Beck I'll sell you...
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 04, 2012 11:12 PM
Wrong again, dim bulb---(we wonder if you ever get tired of being wrong?)--at the rally today with the President at the University of Cincinnatti, there was a crowd of 13,500--the capacity of the arena--which included a performance by Stevie Wonder.
Bruce2397 Wrote: Nov 05, 2012 5:06 PM
18,000 today at the rally for Obama.... Apology accepted.

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