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Roberts' Ruling Took Guts

Bytheocean Wrote: Jun 29, 2012 5:28 PM
Goldberg and others say "He's poisoned the well of the commerce clause for liberals. " I don't see why people say that when they got what they wanted and therefore will be happy to repeat it. Krauthammer's article on this was excellent. http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer062912.php3 “Why Roberts did it: One of the great constitutional finesses ever” Roberts reminds us and corrects the omission in school textbooks, and in books that want-to-be- citizens have to study that "there are 3 branches of gov't." Roberts is saying over and above the role of the media, to remember to not overlook the role of the American people and the voting process and that elections matter. So let's be sure that voting has integrity.
togubin Wrote: Jun 29, 2012 6:18 PM
I don't buy Krauthammer's analysis. He thinks because a "precedent" has been set, therefore, the Supremes in years to come will follow it.

Nonsense. Left-wing justices will rule anyway they want and figure out the justification later. They won't be bound by precedent if it gets in the way of their ends.

Furthermore, some precedents ARE bad and deserve to be abandoned. I give you the Dred Scott decision and Plessy vs. Ferguson. There was another1930s commerce clause case (can't remember the name) where a farmer was told he couldn't even grow food for himself without getting the government involved, as that would be a violation of the commerce clause.
Louie13 Wrote: Jun 29, 2012 6:27 PM
Henry VIII Wrote: Jun 29, 2012 6:48 PM
togubin,
Krauthammer's analysis may be true, but if so, Roberts strategy ignores the obvious: the founders intention expressed in the Constitution, Federalist Papers, and the Declaration of Independence was to protect the people from government growth and abuse. Robert's decision failed to provide the very protection his oath of fidelity to the Constitution, promised....case law, precedent, and the court's image simply don't matter.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Jun 30, 2012 9:03 AM

Why not just cut open a goat and be done with it?

In ancient Rome, a special kind of priest called a haruspex would "read" the entrails of sheep to divine the will of the gods, the health of the growing season, or whatever else was weighing on the minds of men. Because animal guts don't, in fact, impart that much information about, say, next year's wheat harvest, the haruspices (called "auspices" in Latin -- from which we get the English word) could pretty much make it up as they went along. The same went for the auguries (priests who studied...

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