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Bankrupt State University

Buckeye4Constitution Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 9:47 PM
College degrees are overrated. Most jobs out there that require a degree didn't years ago. Guys like JP Morgan and Bill Gates didn't go to/finish college. If my kid wants to go into business, I am going to find alternate ways of getting him the education without the overpriced brainwashing of a "liberal" education. Either an apprenticeship with a local businessman and/or something like zerodebtdegrees.com. And God willing, home school.
Dot32 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 11:05 PM
I went to a university starting in 1980 (I got to witness the profound horror that many of the profs felt just at the idea of RR becoming president; the day after election was priceless). Of course, administrators had not begun to stomp out free speech nor the free exchange of ideas at that time (apparently it was my generation that started that when they became administrators and professors). HOWEVER, the reason a college degree is needed now is because a high school diploma means next to nothing! It simply means a kid was enrolled and showed up just enough to get through. While some kids work hard and take those tough classes and excel, others just get by with a whole lot of help from well-meaning teachers.
Illbay Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 10:07 PM
No, they're not overrated, they're OVER-VALUED.

Time was (*ahem* when I graduated) that a college degree DID actually mean something. My education has served me well my entire life (Unlike what you imply - which is imply what you were force-fed by Leftist college administrators - education isn't about job skills, it's about providing a quality of life, an EXAMINED life, if you will). It has served others I've come into contact with. It will continue paying dividends after I'm dead, because my children and grandchildren were influenced by it.

Merely being able to have a job (the silly examples you give, the 0.0000001% of adults, are meaningless) is something any plumber can achieve. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

But what...
Illbay Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 10:10 PM
...has happened over the last generation is that "college education" has been made equivalent to a sort of "super vocational education." It has denigrated and devalued the true worth of such an education.

I'm sorry, but if you look at things beyond the mercantile - say, the lives of the founders of this nation - you will find that those who count are well-educated. And they gain as much TRUE education as they can, whatever and wherever available. Think of Abe Lincoln doing his sums on the back of a coal shovel.

You have bought into the mercenary arguments of the Leftist elites that actually administer college campuses - the people rightly condemned by Adams' article. And your ignorance is commensurate with the low education that prevails.
Larry in Texas Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 12:28 AM
Yes, IIIbay, "time was" school taught you basics, the 3 R's, Civics, English, Geography, History and the most important lesson of all: HOW to learn. If you can't learn, you're stupid and it's over for you. The end.
Buckeye4Constitution Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 7:46 AM
I don't know WTF you're talking about. I have never bought an argument by a leftist. I went to school to get a piece of paper so I could earn more. And my degree is in engineering - something that somebody will actually pay me for. My point is that you don't need to go to college to acquire skills for a lot of professions. I'm not ignorant, but you, sir, are an a$s.

Many of my friends and readers are disheartened by recent cultural and political trends. Many blame our universities and wonder whether we can ever restore sanity in our nation, given that the enemy seems to control the modern university. They see no chance to win in the war of ideas as long as they are forced to support the public university and, therefore, forced to fund a war against their own cherished values.

But I know something they don't know. The public university that has declined so steadily in recent years will cease to exist in just a few short...