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A Grand Old Party in Panic

Buckeye4Constitution Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 11:49 AM
Thanks Republicans. You have shortened the debate that always occurs in my head around this time of year about voting my conscience (Libertarian) or holding my nose and voting Republican in the hopes that enough other like-minded folks do the same so that we are left with the lesser of 2 evils. As we all know, the only time you waste your vote is either when you don't vote or you don't vote for the person you really want. For those of you out there who believe in Austrian economics and can't stand how the government intervenes in and distorts the free market and drives mis-allocation of resources, consider what signal you yourself are sending when you vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:09 PM
Buckeye:

In this election, it is not even clear WHICH evil is lesser. With Romney's support for a war against Iran, there is a very good argument to be made that he is the greater evil.
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:25 PM
Wrong, he has not said he is FOR war with Iran.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:28 PM
When he went on his recent trip to Israel and said that he supported Israel in their decision if they decided to attack Iran, he was saying he was for war. To say otherwise is like Bill Clinton saying that everything depends on the meaning of "is".
RyanM Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:31 PM
When Romney hopped in bed with a rabid Zionist like Sheldon Adelson his action showed that he was bought and paid for.
Wolfgang6 Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:33 PM
Really? Than why does he want to increase the Army by 100,000? That's three divisions, Bunky. Where are they going to be deployed?
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:44 PM
No, if I tell you I support you if you decide to defend yourself, it does not mean that I will attack someone preemptively for you.
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:45 PM
Your interpretation - he did not say he was for war with Iran.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:46 PM
Wolfgang,

You can bet that they will not be deployed along the Mexican border...
InBlack Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 12:48 PM
Korea, Cuba, Russia, Egypt? I don't know, but your guess does not mean he is pro-war with Iran.

I am anti-war in almost all cases, but spreading anti-Romney lies to weaken his base is dishonest - I suspect you are all either Obama plants or fools (aka disgruntled RP fans).
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 1:49 PM
InBalck, it is clear you have drunk the Koolaid.

Israel cannot get involved in war without the US being dragged in too. They will be flying American-made and supplied planes and dropping American-made and supplied bunker-busters. They will be flying through airspace that the United States controls.

So Romney goes to Israel and says, "If you decide to "defend yourself", we support you all the way." Nudge-nudge, wink-wink. If that is not telling Israel that he supports war with Iran, nothing is.
Buckeye4Constitution Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 3:26 PM
We have that issue here in Ohio with our State Treasurer Josh Mandel. A young marine, elected to state treasurer in Nov 2010, he has been in office a little more than 18 months, and is already running for senator against Sherrod Brown. Lindsay Graham and John McCain have already visited the state to show support and do fundraising. A Jew who served in the military, running for Senate, who is being supported by 2 of the biggest Neocons clamoring for war with Iran...amounts to an almost guaranteed vote for war with Iran.
SMyles Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 3:36 PM
"I am anti-war in almost all cases, but spreading anti-Romney lies to weaken his base is dishonest - I suspect you are all either Obama plants or fools (aka disgruntled RP fans). "

Corbett and Ryan have been here a long time and are certainly no fools. You're beginning to make one of yourself though InBlack by making these types of statements.
Corbett_ Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 4:28 PM
Smyles,

Thanks. One of the few issues Romney has not flip-flopped on is his stand that he will use military force to keep Iran from getting nukes if necessary. He has repeatedly stated his willingness to attack Iran. Then on his trip to Israel, he made further inflammatory statements designed to embolden the people who want war.

His statements are not the statements of a person who is trying to avoid a war. In fact, the opposite appears to be true.

I think he wants Israel to do the dirty work because then he can deny culpability.
SMyles Wrote: Aug 24, 2012 10:09 PM
My pleasure Corbett. I'm in the choir (includine Romney's neocon position).

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