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Banning Crosses, Erasing History

Bob210 Wrote: May 16, 2012 8:47 PM
One (of many) things that seems to get lost in all of this is that the "establishment clause" only applies to the federal government. Is says that (the US) "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." But state and local governments are free to do so under the 10th Amendment. Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, nor do I portray one on television.
Sorceress Wrote: May 16, 2012 11:12 PM
Sorry, but the Constitution and its amendments supersede any conflicting laws that might occur in the states.
ajb3 Wrote: May 16, 2012 8:57 PM
I'm not an attorney either... The courts have ruled that because of the 14th amendment, the first amendment and most of the rest of the Bill of Rights is also binding on the states. Look up "incorporation doctrine". Whether this is due to a strained interpretation or not, I can't say, but Wikipedia says that the original framer of the 14th amended said that it would make the first through eighth amendments apply to the states. In any case, since I live in California I'm glad that it's been interpreted that way. I'm pretty certain that our legislature would outlaw evangelical Christianity and probably Catholicism if it had the power, and probably any faith that took the Bible's words on homosexuality seriously.
Rich D. Wrote: May 16, 2012 10:16 PM
But they didn't object to the official state religions.
John1921 Wrote: May 16, 2012 10:17 PM
As so often, Wikipedia is b*llsh*t. The 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments apply only to freed slaves. That was their only purpose, and even that was so ill-advised that the US has been trying ever since to shovel out from under the crap-o-rama that it turned out to be. The problem, of course, was that these Amendments are the first ever to apply only to certain, extra-special, people and not to others. Once the NE Leftist radical Republicans unleashed that PoS on America it opened the door for all the Affirmative-Action, reverse-discrimination BS that has followed. It was wrong, and stupid, at the time, but, of course, many white people were not allowed to vote then, so the African-American-loving New England a-holes were free to do wrong.
r729 Wrote: May 16, 2012 11:19 PM
Wikipedia and California get lost idiot before you end up buried very deep in the soil in California. You are an incredibly ignorant moron. You know nothing of history or the constitution. There is nothing I hate more than idiots running around claiming they are all knowing. Liberals are the most useless thing on earth. If we want to fix the country you all need to be dumped in holes and just buried alive.
SonofTinsldr2 Wrote: May 17, 2012 1:18 AM
Truly beautiful. It's nice to see how understanding and compassionate conservatives are.
MG formerly minnesotagrandma Wrote: Jun 24, 2012 6:49 PM
Please son. If you judge ME by r729 then I would be right to judge YOU by say, Al Sharpton or Dan Savage.

A simmering controversy surrounding the "Ground Zero Cross" exposes the intolerance and absolutism behind ongoing battles over religious symbols on public property. Contrary to popular belief, it's not Christian conservatives who normally start these bitter disputes. It's more often atheist activists who seek to alter the long-standing status quo by scrubbing the landscape of the most visible signs of the nation's religious heritage.

American Atheists, an organization representing the civil liberties of agnostics, filed suit in 2011 to block display of the Ground Zero Cross anywhere on the grounds of the new memorial museum planned for the World Trade Center site....

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