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Winning After Losing on Gay Marriage

Blaze3 Wrote: Apr 01, 2013 10:12 AM
While I'm all for accepting things as they are, the problem isn't what conservatives and liberals need to do next - it's getting back to a foundational understanding of where ethics and rights derive from. Our founders knew this, while today man seeks to be the arbiter of truth. There is no further argument to be had. As for the SCOTUS defining marriage, legislating from the bench as it so often happens - Dietrich Bonhoeffer said it best: "Marriage is performed not by government, but in the presence of Government." Government didn't create marriage nor can they redefine it whatever happens.
Marie150 Wrote: Apr 01, 2013 10:24 AM
Exactly, was Hitler hoping to marry a few guys?
will_8080 Wrote: Apr 01, 2013 10:17 AM
Do all ethics derive from Allah? Or the man who place the talking snake in the Garden with the two poeple he made from dirt?

As a lawyer, I sometimes have to deliver news that clients don’t want to hear. Here’s some for conservatives. The gay marriage fight is over. It is here to stay, and conservatives – whether for it, against it or just tired of hearing about it – need to coolly and dispassionately figure out just how we are going to win going forward.

This is not a judgment about its pros and cons. We’re past that. None of it matters anymore. This is about dealing with reality. Whether the fight ends with a Constitution-twisting Supreme Court ruling or after years or...