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Blair43 Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 10:19 AM
The problem - politically - with libertarians is that they are too socially liberal to gain the support of conservatives and too fiscally conservative to gain the support of liberals. That's why Paul and other Libertarians get short shrift and always will. Their views are too atheistic for the mainstream of America because they allow for social evils like legalizing drugs and prostitution which are contradictory to Bible teachings. Simultaneously, these same Libertarians call for reduced spending, which sticks in the craw of Progressives. Would I - as an ultraconservative - vote for a Libertarian over a Liberal Democrat? Most likely. But over even a Moderate Republican? Probably not.
AmyDB Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 10:29 AM
Please tell me where in the Constitution the federal government gets it's power to legislate drug use or prostitution Blair.
Shouldn't that be a state issue?
Earl29 Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 10:32 AM
Yes, it should.
I am a libertarian on social issues. Abortion is not a social issue.
Stuart95 Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 11:33 AM
No, no, no! Drug use and prostitution are not government issues at all; they are personal choices made by individuals or groups of individuals. Drugs and prostitution only affect non-participants via the unintended consequences of government actions.

Once you have opened the door for imposing your social views on the entire citizenry, then you have opened the door just as wide for those with social views you abhor. If you outlaw drugs, then it is difficult to tell other people that they can't outlaw capital punishment.

Liberal and conservative politics inch their games forward as the political tides shift. The ultimate conclusion is a government that occupies every aspect of our lives, and uses our money to do it. Count me out.
Origanalist Again Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 2:07 PM
Stuart gets it. A government that can do anything for you can do anything to you.
Earl29 Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 5:22 PM
That doesn't mean that drug use and prostitution are not State issues. Taxes, you know.
I wouldn't tell any State except my own not to outlaw capital purnishment, although I would probably prefer they didn't.

"I want to live for immortality, and I will accept no compromise." In the same way, if he had decided that God and immortality did not exist, he would at once have become an atheist and a socialist. For socialism is not merely the labor question, it is before all things the atheistic question, the question of the form taken by atheism to-day, the question of the tower of Babel built without God, not to mount to heaven from earth but to set up heaven on earth. - Fyodor Dostoevsky, Brothers Karamazov

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