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Jay Carney: SCOTUS Was Wrong about the Mandate, Because Obama Says So

Billy158 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 9:53 AM
According to SCOTUS, the mandate is only legal BECAUSE it's a tax.
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:01 AM
Or because it's a penalty that acts like a tax.
DinCO Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:05 AM
Nice linguistic gymnastics. If it is a penalty that acts like a tax could it also be a takeover of the health care industry that acts like a law?
James____Tx Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:06 AM
Because it's a penalizing tax. The tax that wasn't.

Obama is such a failure.
Aura Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:11 AM
It could, but there's no evidence of anybody taking over the health care industry, is there?
ckoch996 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:17 AM
A tax and a penalty, as the Supreme Court correctly noted, are two LEGALLY exclusive and different things. "A tax is an enforced contribution to provide for the support of the government; a penalty…is an exaction imposed by statute imposed for an unlawful act.” United States v. La Franca, 282 U.S. 568, 571 (1931). A tax can not be a penalty nor can a penalty be a tax. They are two different things. Please educate yourself instead of spouting Democratic moronic talking points. The Democrats can't have it both ways. This is why our country is failing. People are no longer educated, don't know how or are too lazy to educate themselves, want instant gratification, and most importantly, want someone else to do the work for them.
Hard Thought Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:20 AM
Yes, there is.
When the government regulates who gets care and how it is provided, it is a takeover.
When the government adds additional taxes on people who make medical products to pay for the administration of said regulations, it is a takeover of the health care industry.

There are so many more examples to cite, but I will leave that as an exercise for the progressive students so they can learn something.
Hard Thought Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 10:21 AM
If it walks like a tax, acts as a tax and has the functions of a tax, it is a tax.

No matter what Obummer says.
JOHN34 Wrote: Jul 06, 2012 1:30 PM
So kind of in line with novice acting as president

Talk about having your cake and eating it, too: President Obama's various spokesmen are adamant that the individual mandate, which the Supreme Court ruled is constitutional as a tax, is not a tax. Indeed, Roberts' ruling has thrown into chaos the president's messaging machine, which has flopped from one position to the next as political expediency has warrented. Indeed, this whole episode is just more proof that Obama & Co. will say absolutely anything to get what they want, even if they contradict themselves from day to day.

Ben LaBolt, spokesman for the Obama campaign, appeared on television this...