Allen West Recount Denied

No, idiot, I checked back for kicks. And you're providing the kicks. You did NOT refute my claim that Bush won by all FLORIDA newspaper accounts, even the liberal ones. I provided a link to USA Today, a liberal rag, that said all recounts favored Bush. YOU dress me down? Hardly. You don't have the prestige to hold up my many diplomas.

"You did NOT refute my claim that Bush won". You're changing the subject, Bill.

And I never attempted to except right above - where I did, in fact. But you're a predictable nutter. You judge "reality" by the source, not the facts. All you nutters do EXACTLY the same thing. Why is that? Maybe you're all "real smart".

Not that I care - that's history.

But Allen West? He's the current electoral LOSER.

" I provided a link to USA Today, a liberal rag" - that's how we're different (and why you're wrong!), I look at the data, not the source. You weak-minded fool.

"You weak-minded fool."

A classic case of projection. I'm done with you for the night.

A statewide recount could have produced enough votes to tilt the election [Gore’s] way, no matter what standard was chosen to judge voter intent.

If all the ballots had been reviewed under any of seven single standards, and combined with the results of an examination of overvotes, Mr. Gore would have won, by a very narrow margin. For example, using the most permissive "dimpled chad" standard, nearly 25,000 additional votes would have been reaped, yielding 644 net new votes for Mr. Gore and giving him a 107-vote victory margin.

Using the most restrictive standard — the fully punched ballot card — 5,252 new votes would have been added to the Florida total, producing a net gain of 652 votes for Mr. Gore, and a 115-vote victory margin.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/12/politics/12VOTE.html?pagewanted=1

Silly person. You're quoting the NY Times? How about all the newspapers in FLORIDA, even the liberal ones, that conducted recounts and found that Bush won? You libs really hate facts, don't you?

Uh, Bill-O, you're typically predictable. Deciding based on the source over the data exposes you as the "fact hater".

You might try reading before deciding what you "know" (not that I expect you will - too dumb). The Times was simply reporting the result of the Consortium Recount Analysis.

You jut tell yourself that you "won". That's all that matters...

I looked for Consortium Recount Analysis, but couldn't find any organization by that name. I'm giving you LIBERAL sources that say Bush won, Here's CNN, hardly a conservative organization: http://articles.cnn.com/2001-04-04/politics/florida.recount.01_1_ballots-without-presidential-votes-undercounted-ballots-miami-herald-and-usa?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS


If you think the NY Times is an unbiased source, then you're clueless. OF COURSE one considers the source. I don't accept anything the NY Times puts forth as fact, because they lie all the time.

I don't know, Bill. I've got this I uncontrollable urge to let them die in their Petrie dish in their own waste matter.

But we'll die with them.

Let me try that again. Doggone autocorrect.

I don't know Bill. I have this uncontrollable urge to just let them die in the Petrie dish in their own waste matter.

Well, do you really want to live in their Utopia?

No correction needed. I got what you intended. We will still die with them, so we have to fight.

No, I don't want to live in their Utopia. For starters, their vision of Utopia will never be realized. They're headed for Greece. They're stupid, and there is a majority of them.

I'm not so sure, Bill. Fight what, exactly? I'm not sure we can turn this around anymore. I think it's too far gone. Don't get me wrong, that isn't said in despair but in realizing what the priorities should be.

Okay, so what's the answer? If I knew, I'd tell you.

Bill, don't get me wrong. I'm not giving up. I'm just fighting a different battle now. For me it's no longer political. That's been too corrupted. Now it's an internal fight, making sure that I'M doing what's right regardless of what anyone else does.

I liken it to what Jesus counseled His followers to do if they were not received. He didn't tell them to stay there and take abuse.

Well yes, all good people do what's right in our personal lives. I'm old enough that the drastic changes coming won't affect me that much, but I'm really worried for my kids. What are we giving them? I honesty wish I knew how to make the stupid people in this country smart, but I don't. It could be tough times ahead.

You can't change people who don't want to be changed. Take care of you and yours. Make sure they're prepared physically, mentally, and spiritually. We've been abnormally blessed these past 200 plus years but I fear we are due to join the rest of human history in having to struggle to live.

Sometimes, suffering can actually produce good characteristics and while it may be difficult, dealing with hardship correctly can bring a peace that always having it good cannot.

Let's face it, part of our problem is due to the fact that, as a people we've been spoiled by our abundance.

Only those who haven't earned their abundance are spoiled by it. I struggled mightily to get where I am, and I never take it for granted. I don't see much in the way of good characteristics in so many people in this country who think something is owed to them. They don't know what hard work is, but they sure expect the benefits of hard work.

That is the greatest thing that anyone can do.

Bill, you have what it takes to endure. The takers don't. When it gets tough, those who have their characters honed by dint of hard work and discipline will do ok, those who have not will find they're ill-equipped for what they're facing because they haven't been "storing up grain for the famine".

True, C, but there will be suffering and the innocent will be involved. Riots are not out of the question, from those who fee entitled but have no core values.

I know, Bill. I just think that there are forces at work that are bigger than all of us. Even Obama's being driven by forces outside of his control. It's like a perfect storm approaching of which he and his are merely bit players.

I don't know if you're a praying man or not but I think it's time for those of us who see what's coming to be getting on our knees. We probably should have been doing that long before this.

Gotta get some sleep, Bill. Good "talking" with you. I'm sure I'll "see" you again on TH.

Take care and God bless.