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When you P.O. Moticia Addam's, you've clearly stepped over a line.
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Resurrecting Supernaturalism

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 12, 2015 4:58 PM
There's no shortage of evidence for a supernatural realm. There's creation itself, the miracles of the OT, and the resurrection of Christ (which was witnessed by over 500 people) to name a few. All these are perfectly valid, but they're meaningless unless one is first open to the possibility of the supernatural. Take as an example the Pharisees in the NT. Even though many personally witnessed Jesus' miracles, they still crucified Him. Even when directly confronted with evidence that Jesus was the messiah they were waiting for, their worldview prevented them from recognizing this. Ask yourself this. What would it take to convince you that God exists? I personally don't believe any evidence would suffice because you hold a worldview that rejects the supernatural, and with it, God.
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Resurrecting Supernaturalism

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 12, 2015 4:58 PM
There's no shortage of evidence for a supernatural realm. There's creation itself, the miracles of the OT, and the resurrection of Christ (which was witnessed by over 500 people) to name a few. All these are perfectly valid, but they're meaningless unless one is first open to the possibility of the supernatural. Take as an example the Pharisees in the NT. Even though many personally witnessed Jesus' miracles, they still crucified Him. Even when directly confronted with evidence that Jesus was the messiah they were waiting for, their worldview prevented them from recognizing this. Ask yourself this. What would it take to convince you that God exists? I personally don't believe any evidence would suffice because you hold a worldview that rejects the supernatural, and with it, God.
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Resurrecting Supernaturalism

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 11, 2015 1:56 PM
Assuming the universe is completely self-contained with neither beginning or end requires just as much faith as my belief in God. But all that aside, does basing your view of reality on this presupposition comport with what we actually experience? I still think that presupposing God better explains everything (including this discussion) than presupposing that there is no God.
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Resurrecting Supernaturalism

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 11, 2015 11:00 AM
But we know the universe has a beginning and therefore a cause. God does not have a beginning and therefore has no cause. No cause is required or even possible. The very fact that we are using logic presupposes that there are things that are universal, invariant, and transcendent. You, as an atheist can't account for the use of logic if it's just based on what's going on in your brain. Why should I be bound by your reason if my brain generates something different? As a Christian, I'd offer that reason and logic (and mathematics, morality, physical laws, and any kind of law) has its basis in the nature an character of God. God exists because of the impossibility of the contrary. This isn't a proof based on logic persay. But not all things are known by logic. But I think you have to presuppose the existence of God before you can apply rules of logic that we are both bound to. So God exists because of the impossibility of the contrary.
I think you're misunderstanding his point. Publius4254 is correct and that isn't the kind of thing a socialist would say.
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Obama Versus America

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 04, 2015 1:35 AM
Why are we not surprised?! His "community organizing" history coupled with his socialistic streak is destroying a nation which he loathes. Worst prez ever!!
How is being SILENT and NOT reporting a violent crime, like rape, to the police sympathetic to women? Someone who's truly sympathetic to women would come down an any man who commits rape like a ton of bricks. It starts with reporting the crime.
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Into the Lion’s Den

Bill2365 Wrote: Feb 02, 2015 10:06 AM
As an OSU alum I'll have to make a point of being at the OSU event.
It's a good first step, but given that only 1.5% of all abortions take place after 20 weeks, it's kind of a drop in the bucket. It's also worth noting that legislators who support this, but are pro-choice for abortions before the 20 week mark are still in line with Planned Parenthood and NARAL 98.5% of the time.
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