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Fiscal Cliff Notes: Part II

Bill115 Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 11:57 AM
I suppose if the Republicans were to cave and give in completely to Obama, it would be a bitter pill indeed to swallow, but at the same time, there would be absolutely no place to lay the blame for the consequences except directly on Obama. His proposal, and his alone. On the other hand, I would really enjoy a trip over the so-called "Fiscal Cliff" just to see if it is real, or just more political theatre. I have a feeling that citizens were getting tired of some of the old rhetoric ( i.e. "The government is going to shut down"), so the politicians had to come up with a fresher and scarier line.
Roy323 Wrote: Dec 06, 2012 1:27 AM
Bill115-I can appreciate your assessment of the "doom and gloom" projection-It certainly is a MAJOR projection of FEAR. I've been close to the bottom before, so I don't scare so easily. We'll survive Obama-He doesn't scare me!
cwa Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:07 PM
We are in a tug-of-war with the liberals and the media, the “beautiful people” the race baiters, the occupiers, the class warfare warriors, the anti-American crowd, and on and on and on. We are greatly outnumbered. We cannot win this tug-of-war. Just let go of the rope and they will all fall on their but*s. Let everyone learn the hard way that what we have been telling them is true. Do not tinker around the margins of the BHO’s finance policy disaster; do not touch this mess or you will be blamed for its failures. Live to fight another day.

Just vote present
squiddy Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:14 PM
I agree with both - just give Obama most of what he asks for (not, for example, the anti-Constitutional demand for an unlimited debt ceiling.)

Then, let it burn. I know, it sounds terrible - but as we've found in the last election, the majority of people have bought the economic theories put forth by the left - the only way we'll ever get them to comprehend is to experience it for themselves. *Any* kind of compromise deal will allow the President to take credit for anything good that results, and blame the negatives on the Republicans.

To put it another way, I'd rather suffer 3, 4, or 5 years of a poor economy than 30, 40, or 50.

Vote "present."
Trublu Wrote: Dec 05, 2012 12:40 PM
How do you win by quitting? This concept is foreign to me. Liberals don’t quit. They keep coming and coming at you with their nutty proposals. Socializing medicine has been around since the 1940’s, liberals stuck with it until they got it. Conservatives need to be more tenacious. So we suffered a set back, big deal. If your ideals are worth fighting for, you never stop. Scream NO! “Stand athwart history yelling STOP!”—Bill Buckley. Give Obama the most outrageous conservative proposal you can muster. Propose spending cuts, tax cuts, welfare reform ect… Eventually the people will say look we could have had. Otherwise we are just democrats lite. “Silence is acquiescence”.—Thomas More

Editor's Note: This column is part II in a series. Part I can be found here.

One of the big advantages that President Obama has, as he plays "chicken" with the Congressional Republicans along the "fiscal cliff," is that Obama is a master of the plausible lie, which will never be exposed by the mainstream media-- nor, apparently, by the Republicans.

A key lie that has been repeated over and over, largely unanswered, is that President Bush's "tax cuts for the rich" cost the government so much lost tax revenue that this added to the budget deficit-- so...