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Love, California Style

BFDOFR Wrote: Mar 28, 2013 11:15 AM
I strongly disagree with your definition of conservativism. I think it is fundamentally an epistemological view that holds that in matters of law, morality, and governance generally, we should defer to tradition unless there is very strong evidence suggesting a change. Our forefathers were conservative and universally objected to lawlessness, but about 1/3 of the population became convinced that the time to overthrow the British had come. Their conservatism was tempered by a strong grasp of the real world they lived in and their ability to think beyond the dictates of tradition. So, we favor change, even bold change when the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that change is needed, but are generally suspicious of and resistant to fads.
renny4 Wrote: Mar 28, 2013 4:32 PM
Yes, tradition, custom, and authority are the basic characteristics of cons.

Marriage returned to the two-parent union of a 1950s sitcom on Tuesday as the U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments on the legal challenge to Proposition 8, the California-voter-approved measure that banned same-sex marriage in 2008. Urging the court to overturn Prop. 8, attorney Ted Olson argued that the law stigmatized same-sex couples by consigning them to a status that labels "their most cherished relationships as second-rate, different, unequal and not OK."

It's a complete turnaround for California, the state that pioneered dismissing marriage as a meaningless legality. In 1976, the California Supreme Court recognized the notion of "palimony"...