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Shocker: Democrats Reject Yet Another 'Cliff' Plan They Once Supported

beowulfe Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 12:35 PM
More MC lies debunked: MC claimed that in the 1990s and 2000, the national debt went down. The following is the debt outstanding by year, taken from: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt.htm 09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 09/30/1999 5,656,270,901,615.43 09/30/1998 5,526,193,008,897.62 09/30/1997 5,413,146,011,397.34 09/30/1996 5,224,810,939,135.73 09/29/1995 4,973,982,900,709.39 09/30/1994 4,692,749,910,013.32 09/30/1993 4,411,488,883,139.38 09/30/1992 4,064,620,655,521.66 09/30/1991 3,665,303,351,697.03 09/28/1990 3,233,313,451,777.25
americathebeautiful Wrote: Dec 19, 2012 1:06 PM
Thank you very much beowulfe for bringing sanity to the discussion. However, moderate and LOL cares NOTHING WHATSOEVER about FACTS or TRUTH

This could make for one hell of a drinking game.  Step one: Republicans propose an idea that high-ranking Democrats have explicitly supported in the very recent past.  Step two: Democrats unceremoniously dump all over the idea, calling it "unacceptable," "dead on arrival," or whatever the dismissive pejorative of the day may be.  Step three: Drink (and I've got just the beverage in mind for this occasion).  The trouble is that by this stage in our interminable cliff charade, everyone involved would be too wasted to negotiate any further -- which actually might not be the worst thing in...