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A Real Term Limit

Benjamin the Donkey Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 5:01 AM
You would need to kill the 16th Amendment also; this alone powers the government beast...too much revenue!
charles_v Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 7:26 AM
Agree that the 17th amendment took away state power. However a disturbing fact is that congressmen can only be removed by congress, they set their own salaries, retirement, travel methods, etc. they have also failed miserably in tasks defined by the constitution such as setting a budget.

I suggest a new amendment called the congressional ethics amendment. This would allow an association of state governors to fire a congressman for ethics violations. The governor of a state can fire his state senator if they are not following the wishes of the state.

while we are at it why dont we set limits on salary, expenses, perks, etc. set a new retirement plan relating to best commercial practices and term limits.
Scrap Iron in Texas Wrote: Mar 20, 2013 6:16 AM
And the 17th amendment.
There is a reason the Framer's wanted the states to appoint their representatives, and for the people to elect their representatives.

Currently (and since 1913) the states have no effective representation in congress.

BTW, the Fair Tax takes much power away from politicians (and lobbyists) and returns it to "We, the People".
The main thing wrong with the term limits movement is the "s" at the end of the word "limit."

What are advocates of term limits trying to accomplish? If they are trying to keep government from being run by career politicians, whose top priority is getting themselves reelected, then term limits on given jobs fail to do that.

When someone reaches the limit of how long one can spend as a county supervisor, then it is just a question of finding another political office to run for, such as a member of the state legislature. And when the limit on terms there is...