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Why Did Mitt Romney Lose?

Benga Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 6:04 AM
you really believe in them. They see a GOP obsession with huge government when it comes to social issues, counter-terrorism, or Michigan's emergency financial manager. They see pushback against states' rights when the Left wins on pot or gay marriage. They hear about personal responsibility and then see GOP standing ovations for Vitter and Ensign and others. They hear screaming about freedom of religion, but overt distaste for practicing Muslims. They hear about fiscal discipline, but never see too many of the long term revenue benefits from massive tax breaks (while those do explode the debt). They don't view you as Conservative, they view you as simply protective of the rich and powerful, and that is why Romney's 47% comments were
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Why Did Mitt Romney Lose?

Benga Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 5:51 AM
Speaking as a Progressive, well to the Left of Obama (and someone who voted 3rd party), it wasn't Romney, or the GOTV, or voter fraud, or the MSM, or the Hurricane, or Christie, or "stupid/lazy/entitled voters" that lost you the election. It wasn't even the "lack of messaging" to minority groups. It is Conservative POLICY that a slim but growing and inevitable majority of the country doesn't like. The country isn't Center Right, and it isn't innately Conservative on nearly any issue (as defined by Limbaughian, Randian conventional Republican Conservatism. There are a few streaks of Libertarianism that are more appealing). You aren't losing because of the demographics, but because not enough people either like your principles or think
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Why Did Mitt Romney Lose?

Benga Wrote: Nov 09, 2012 5:36 AM
No, because Byrd in his later decades no longer held the same worldview as he held when with the KKK. In the 1940's, Byrd was a Conservative (many Southern Dems were Conservative in this era), and years later he became vastly more Liberal and denounced his previous ideology. His supporters from the 1940s were associating with a racist. Not his supporters from 2005. It isn't about supporting a person with whatever baggage that person has previously accumulated (or else Reagan fans would have to deal with his prior Liberalism). It is about supporting the policies that happen to also be championed by that person. If Byrd, by the end of his life, was fighting for minority rights, then his past isn't relevant to his current supporters.
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