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What is the Future of Conservatism?

Bay0Wulf Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 9:34 AM
There is no place for a Conservative to turn to today. There are plenty of them out there but none of our current Political Parties are worth the powder it would take to blow them away. The Democrats are so far left/Liberal they would probably love a chance to elect Lenin. The Republicans are so far "Centrist" that they are Left of center. Political Will and Political Integrity have been abandoned in the rush to embrace Political Correctness and Sensitivity. Conservatives looked at both candidates for President and figured there was no point in engaging. I voted for McCain (unwillingly but no option) & Mitt in despair (the same scenario) and people accuse me of being a Republican. People suggest that I should vote Libertarian :(
Bay0Wulf Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 9:40 AM
But Libertarians are ... really? Are they actually a Political Party or just a place to gather all the oddballs?

Conservative need to abandon our 3 Party system and enact a 4th. The Constitutional Party is a real Party that has done little to nothing since its inception. It needs to be picked up, shook out and revitalized. I think that Conservatives could shake it out and rewrite it "charter" and turn it into a serious mover and shaker ... something like a Political Party for the TEA Party People.

I am a Constitutional Conservative and honestly ... there is NO Political Party out there currently offering any platform I truly support.

WE must create a Party that takes a hard stance on tough issues and has the intestinal fortitude (balls)
Bay0Wulf Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 9:47 AM
To do what is said and promised.

We need to create a Party that, like the TEA Party will support the Republicans ... if they are truly going in the "right" direction ... or stand as a block and stop things from moving in the wrong direction if needed.

The Government (the House & Senate) do things by votes and often the votes are decided by relatively thin margins and usually by some under the table dealing (You give me X and I'll support your Y) but the dealing is for THEIR OWN agendas and nothing for the citizens.

If we can get 10 or 15% (look at what the TEA Party oriented politicians managed to do) to stand fast and refuse to make "Deals with the Devil" we could actually change the direction we are moving in.
Greg1949 Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 10:04 AM
Tea Party people were supporting until the convention when the repubs rebuffed them along with Mitt, saying they didn't need or want them.........3 million didn't vote how many were Tea Party folks?
Greg1949 Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 10:06 AM
The republican party turned on the peoples choice in Nevada and we got Dingy Harry back!!!
ppotts Wrote: Jan 11, 2013 12:33 PM
Yep libertarians are just a place to throw away your vote. There is no room for more than 2 choices. If you can't select a place to go out of two opposing ways, then you are really incapable of making any kind of choice. The problem with today is there are so many choices that it causes confusion in the masses. A few less choices would be a real improvement in the way things get accomplished.
Neal from PA Wrote: Jan 28, 2013 11:03 AM


Yes…I have two choices…RIGHT OR WRONG…I choose RIGHT over WRONG. It always boils down to choosing between the lesser of two evils. However, politics being what it is (corrupt)…I make my decision based upon values and character. The idea is VOTE…for the politician of your choice; but please do vote for the one that possesses the RIGHT values and personal character traits that founded this great nation. Anything else just creates the chaos and un-certainty we have today.

Neal from PA Wrote: Jan 28, 2013 11:04 AM


"Sin" and “morality” are not equivalent; however, they are definitely related. Morality is based upon one's own values...Personal character traits are the values and attitudes you have toward your activities and the challenges they present. These traits and associated values may be positive, negative or often in between, depending on the situation. Positive values along with personal character traits lead to achievement of goals and success. Negative values and personal character traits can lead to failure or frustration. Most of these values and traits are established through training from parents, while others are gained from peer groups and associations.

I DON'T FALL IN LOVE with politicians – the last presidential candidate I voted for with ardor was Ronald Reagan in 1980 – and my heart doesn't break when those I support don't win. Nor am I a party loyalist. As a conservative I vote for Republicans more often than not; for those of us committed to free enterprise, limited government, military strength, and a healthy civil society, there is usually no better option. But the Republican Party isn't the conservative movement. And a GOP defeat doesn't mean conservatism – or the GOP, for that matter – is in crisis.

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