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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 4:09 PM
Should read 'it will be my....'.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 2:51 PM
Look at Geoff Bloom, a man blasted as a dangerous old dinosaur in the last 10 days. In fact, reas his article here and whilst you may disagree with him, you will see a very different man from the one being attacked by the metropolitan media: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/talking-politics/let-face-men-women-different-083605708.html#TdF3CDD
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 2:49 PM
I will be voting NO. I will be rejecting not only the separatist politics of the SNP and nationalism, but also rejecting what Scotland would become post a Yes vote. Which fills me with utter dread. And going by every poll this year, I will be my fellow NO voters who are going to win and win a major victory.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 2:45 PM
We ALREADY see this selective and spurious history at work: look at Culloden. Where more Scots fought AGAINST Charlie (inc proudly both sides of my family) than for him. Yet its the Highland 'risers' of the 45 who are the heroes. You obviously keep up to date with current affairs. So you will knoe the current controversy in Scottish education, where many, from primary teachers to heavyweight academics (Tom Devine etc), have lambasted the plans by the SNP for Scottish historical education. They have criticised it as simplistic nationalist claptrap, using children as political tools. And this is BEFORE 2014, before a possible breakaway. God help us if the Yes vote wins. Our children will get an appalling historical education. I never said anything about the SNP, I was clearly talking about Scotland as a whole. Nice try at a strawman there, any more and you could burn Eddie Woodward thrice over. Cameron and his Oxbridge cronies btw are not more posh than the last Labour govt, who with the likes of Ponygirl Harman and others, were a load of upper middle class, public school types. In fact I'd argue they were/are actually more 'posh' overall. Despite the endless hype about Bullington and Eton and the Tories.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 22, 2013 2:37 PM
What utter shite as well. UKIP has ethnic members. UKIP's policies appeal to and are meant to appeal to a broad British base, which includes whites and non-whites. Be it their policies on benefits or law and order as well as Europe. UKIP are not a nationalist party in the true sense. They are a conservative party, Unionist, Eurosceptic. That's their core. Not nationalism as we see in the SNP, PC, SF, or European nationalist parties. Typical nonsense to try and equate UKIP with real morons and racists like the EDL and BNP. Farage is a non-racist man (you may dislike him and that's fine), but he is no Tommy Robinson or Nick Griffin. People like you don't like (fair enough) and fear the support in the UK for UKIP and have decided the only way to combat them is to slander the party and its members as racists, xenophobes and bigots. Its desperate and its pathetic. If a UKIP politician makes an offensive comment, let me be clear, I will be the first to say its out of order. But to say a party is so because one politician is so is stupid. Ignorant comments by politicians are not the preserve of one party. 'Do I really need to run down' the racist/sexist/anti-Semitic comments of Labour and Lib Dem members?. Remember Diane Abbott's vile comments about white nurses?. Or John McDonnell's vile support of the IRA?. Or SNP member John Mason's public anti-English drivel. Or the appalling and ignorant comments by SNP's Sandra White. To name just a few. In fact, DO run down the list and let the people here read what you claim is offensive. And see how much of it really is. I will be happy to agree with you if some of it is. You utterly missed my point about 300 yrs of Unionism. Scottish nationalists regard the 300 yrs as that of oppression. Their bible is a 1975 book written by an left wing American academic. Which treats Scotland the same as Ireland and Wales. What I was talking about is what history their would be in a post-independent Scotland. What future children and Scots would be taught would be this (spurious) notion of history, where 300 yrs would be treated as an oppressive blip. And even more dangerously, all the ills of the British state of that time would be passed of as 'English'. They would, to coin a famous phrase, be 'the alibi of a nation' .
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 4:38 PM
There is little or no anti-Semitism in Scotland, now or historically. One of the few European countries that doesn't have a history of it. What there has been is some noxious anti-Israeli nonsense from Scottish pro-Palestine groups who have sadly succeeded in putting pressure on a small handful of local councils to ban buying Israeli products. They do not speak for most Scots, who even if they don't agree with Israeli policy, find such banning wrong and rather fascistic. A tiny minority of anti-israelism, yes, but anti-Semitism (too often the two are joined), no. The Jews have a happy history in Scotland. The Scots rejected and reject racist and anti-Semitic groups, from Mosley's 1930's blackshirts to today's BNP. Jews have lived and thrived in my country, and have famous areas of residence and culture, such as Newton Mearns just outside Glasgow and the Garnethill area in Glasgow. There have been many prominent Jewish businesspeople, artists and politicians in Scottish life.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 10:15 AM
If UKIP is nationalist, and I actually don't think they are truly a nationalist party, their politics are primarily of social and political conservatism and opposition to European control. Nationalist is a bit of a lazy term to use with UKIP imo. UK nationalism imo is not their raison d'etre. Conservatism and controlling Britain not the EU, is that really nationalist politics?. What UKIP opposes as do I is racial multiculturalism, which leads to a fractured society, self-ghettoisation of ethnic communities, and in fact LESS societal bonds between the 'native' white British and those immigrants or the descendants of immigrants. A well meaning but dreadful idea, attacked even by numerous major ethnic commentators from Kenan Malik to Bishop Sentamu. An idea which has caused the very problems it set out to eradicate..... What UKIP embraces is a British identity which can embrace a general British identity and the various identities that make it up: Scots, English, Welsh and Ulster Irish, as well as Manx, Channel Islanders etc. All those identities will themselves have been influenced for the good by many groups, from black Africans to Italians, Jews to Muslims, Poles to Indians. A solo Scotland will be one of not only outdated socialism, but a smug self satisfied nationalism, an inward looking, historically selective, anti English and British nationalism, which will seek to ignore and reject 300+ yrs of Scottish unionism. An appalling mix of monolithic socialist ideas and Jock Tamsonism.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 7:48 AM
A poster on FreeRepublic made this very apt point: 'The fundamental point about the Edinburgh Fringe Festival which the author completely fails to grasp is that it's passively, not actively administered. The shows on the Fringe aren't selected by the Fringe organisers. They simply make available hire a large number of mostly temporary venues (church halls etc), which anybody can hire to promote their own show. Thus small theatre companies from throughout Britain, and indeed the English-speaking world, have always seen it as a showcase which may get them noticed. So the programme tells you nothing at all about Scotland, other than that a lot of strange people like to go there.'
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 7:43 AM
Yes. But they seek to keep a kinship with America and the Commonwealth. And they are a BRITISH nationalist party, as I said by definition that means they embrace four nations and four cultures, as well as the 'islands'. IMO more outward than SNP/Plaid Cymru, whose nationalism is based around one nation and is imo much more narrow-focused and reductive.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 7:41 AM
UK's missiles are based in Scotland.
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ayrshireman Wrote: Aug 21, 2013 7:40 AM
McCollum or McCallum?.
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