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Anominus Wrote: 11 hours ago (7:21 PM)
There is nothing hypocritical about approving of capital punishment while opposing abortion. Capital punishment is the just reward for a serious, intentional, criminal act of the highest degree - it is the result of the criminals own choices. Abortion is the unjustifiable murder of an innocent human baby, on a whim from its mother - the child has no choice in the matter. I will also point you to the 5th Amendment: "No person shall be...deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." Tell me, where is the due process of the law for the soon to be aborted child?
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Anominus Wrote: 11 hours ago (7:14 PM)
It's true that you can't imprison someone for considering the commission of a crime, but you can do so, for someone who takes even the first step in bringing about that crime. Just for the sake of argument, assume that abortion was illegal - you could arrest the woman for the crime of solicitation if she is seeking an abortion. If she has already contracted with an abortionist, you could get them both for the crime of conspiracy. You don't actually have to wait until after the commission the planned act.
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Anominus Wrote: 11 hours ago (7:01 PM)
I agree with you, Darby, except for that last part: It is not "wrong" to take away the freedom of someone who abuses their freedom, in order to harm others. That is the basis of our justice system, and is precisely why we lock criminals up and execute those deemed a threat to society.
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:57 PM)
Actually, life is reasonably easy to define - they even cover it in Biology 101 textbooks. Life is considered a characteristic of something that exhibits all or most of the following traits: 1. Homeostasis: Regulation of the internal environment to maintain a constant state; for example, electrolyte concentration or sweating to reduce temperature. 2. Organization: Being structurally composed of one or more cells — the basic units of life. 3. Metabolism: Transformation of energy by converting chemicals and energy into cellular components (anabolism) and decomposing organic matter (catabolism). Living things require energy to maintain internal organization (homeostasis) and to produce the other phenomena associated with life. 4. Growth: Maintenance of a higher rate of anabolism than catabolism. A growing organism increases in size in all of its parts, rather than simply accumulating matter. 5. Adaptation: The ability to change over time in response to the environment. This ability is fundamental to the process of evolution and is determined by the organism's heredity, diet, and external factors. 6. Response to stimuli: A response can take many forms, from the contraction of a unicellular organism to external chemicals, to complex reactions involving all the senses of multicellular organisms. A response is often expressed by motion; for example, the leaves of a plant turning toward the sun (phototropism), and chemotaxis. 7. Reproduction: The ability to produce new individual organisms, either asexually from a single parent organism, or sexually from two parent organisms
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:50 PM)
And yet, on this issue, you are in line with all the other left-leaning moderates - "I personally oppose abortion, but I believe everyone else has that right." You do know that your position is in direct opposition to the Catholic Church, right?
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:35 PM)
Actually, Darby isn't "missing or misusing" anything - you are forgetting or ignoring the other half of "choice and free will" - personal responsibility. An individual cannot be considered "sovereign" unless they own their both halves of their actions - choice and consequence. You continually use abortion as the starting point, when in reality, the woman started this cascade of consequences with her choice to engage in sex without desiring to have children. Again, women bring this upon themselves - why should they be free of their self-inflicted "slavery"? I have a suspicion that you approve of men being forced to pay child support - am I right?
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:22 PM)
All of our laws take away an "individual freedom." Laws against murder take away the "individual freedom" to murder someone. Are you opposed to such laws as that? People are incarcerated reactively (as punishment for committing a crime) or proactively (to prevent them from harming themselves or others). If a woman intends to murder her children, why should she NOT be put in prison? We should all be responsible for our own choices, but when we choose to be irresponsible, should we be permitted to harm others to avoid the consequences of our choices?
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:13 PM)
There is a reason that most tribal cultures are either irrelevant or extinct - they failed to move beyond the society and technology of the stone age. We are here, in the modern USA, discussing the laws of the USA. Your entire post is a red herring and does not answer the question.
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Anominus Wrote: 12 hours ago (6:04 PM)
"(3) The elimination by force of the use of free will is not Gods plan." If I use my free will to defend innocent persons, using force to prevent an act of violence, is that "not God's plan"?
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Anominus Wrote: 13 hours ago (5:53 PM)
"Forcing others behavior by eliminating choice really is the progressive type of path." If I see a violent bank robber, and am able to corner him with a gun to the side of his head, am I pursuing the "progressive type of path"?
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