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Ending Gun Violence Requires Commitment, Not All of it Voluntary

annfan_777 Wrote: Jan 24, 2013 9:41 PM
Steve of CA Wrote: 4 hours ago (4:46 PM) A major turning pint in the hospitalization of the mentally ill came in 1967 with legislation signed by California Gov. Ronald Reagan, and this legislation became a model for other states. ------------------- You are full of nonsense, as usual - the "major turning point", as Ann has repeatedly pointed out, is when the godless ACLU sued to make sure that the mentally ill could not be held or medicated against their will. Trying to blame left wing political stupidity on Reagan is pathetic and lame, even for a hack like you.
sean242 Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 2:11 AM
While technically correct, Steve of CA tries to make the legislation sound bad. What had happened in CA was that too many persons with minor mental health issues were virtually incarcerated. When that legislation took effect, the homeless population exploded. The people that were turned loose were mainly substance abusers and those with minor personality disorders, not raging psychotics. I think it was a good thing to have a high bar to hurdle in order to involuntarily commit someone. There were many abuses and the cost to house, feed, and medicate these people was growing larger every year. Would you like to be committed just because of strange or unusual behavior that was not a danger to anyone? In a free society we just -
sean242 Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 2:14 AM
cont'd-have to take some bad outcomes to preserve liberty for all. Sometimes criminals go free because of their constitutionally protected rights. It's far better that a guilty person goes free than an innocent be convicted
Steve of CA Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 8:12 AM
sean --I was not trying to make the legislation sound bad, just stating that it was a major turning point. My impression is that it had good and bad effects
curmudgeon10 Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 3:56 PM
yep. and so much better that a school full of children get shot rather than commit some crazy liberal who might not actually kill anyone. yes, most of the mass murderers are liberals. liberalism has a definite appeal to psychotics.
Steve of CA Wrote: Jan 25, 2013 5:17 PM
So maybe just throw all liberals into mental hospitals.

The good news is: Obama and the Senate Democrats have no intention of passing more idiotic gun legislation in response to the Newtown massacre. The bad news is that they also have no intention of passing any legislation about the mentally ill, which would actually do something to reduce these mass shootings.

Instead, the Democrats will jawbone about "assault weapons" and other meaningless gun laws for the sole purpose of scaring soccer moms into hating the National Rifle Association. Expect to hear a lot about Republicans preferring "the gun lobby" to "children." (Which is evidently not at all like...