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Assault on Religious Liberty (Part 2)

Angie74 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:03 PM
The liberal left anti-Christian bigots cannot stand that people have faith - the Bible is offensive to them because it actually tells us there are things that are detestable to God so just like in the beginning of time, they try to "silence" the naysayers which in this case is really God, the Christians are just practicing their faith. What is sickening is the fact they cannot let us believe what we want but instead have to try to silence those they do not agree with. Liberals do not want consequences for their actions and they do not want to feel guilty about their choices...we as Christians make them uncomfortable.
Pinkmusic Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 7:19 PM
Why do you fundies act so put upon? Nobody is trying to silence you. Why would I want to? Today Pat Robertson said miracles don't happen in America because we are to well educated. That's quality entertainment! Guess he did make me feel uncomfortable. My sides hurt from laughing.
Jack2894 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:17 PM
No one is trying to "silence" you. You can post here, buy a newspaper, buy a magazine, open a television station, have a radio program, open a day school, an elementary school, a high school, a college or a university to promulgate your beliefs. You can go to any street corner and speak your religious beliefs out loud.

The ONLY thing you can't do is use the government to disseminate those beliefs.

But what is the only thing you want? TO use the government to disseminate those beliefs.
Angie74 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:23 PM
By taking down crosses Christans or religious organizations have placed is an effort to "silence" and not respect one's religious beliefs. The Christian faith is silenced when it is told it cannot distribute Bibles. THe government has already overstepped its boundaries which is what this article is about - did you read it?
mulbery Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:36 PM
This government can't be used as a conduit to promote Christianity. We all pay taxes whether w're Christian or not. We are all free to practice our rligionand the courts are correctly noting that we are not to have Christianity promulgated by our government. I am a Jew and I don't believe in Jesus Christ, sorry, and I am just as viable a citizen of this nation as any Christian. So no thank you. This is not Iraw, we do not have a state religion.
ericynot Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:37 PM
Angie, you can erect all the crosses you want and hand out Bibles all day long .... on private property. You just can't do those things on public property because of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. You do support our Constitution don't you?
Patriot155 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:44 PM
The establishment clause???
Obviously the writers meant this in a different context because often they prayed before congresional meetings, the walls inside the Supreme Court building has Moses carrying the 10 Commandments, on top of the Washington Monument it's written in latin "Laus Deo"-Praise Be to God, on the US Court of Appeals building you see in plain sight the engraving of a Cross and the 10 Commandments...etc.
Jack2894 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 12:46 PM
Angie,

If you had the money and the inclination, you could buy up every single billboard in America, in perpetuity, and do nothing but advertise your religion. Same with every newspaper, magazine, and TV station. I would defend your right to do so. The only thing you can't do is use the government to advertise your religion for you.

All of the items mentioned by Norris are examples of Christians wanting to use the government to bolster religion.
Jeremiah 1:5 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 1:43 PM
A cross on a government building does not etablish a religion. Apparently no one has taken a good look at all the government monuments and buildings in DC built by 1st or 2nd generation signers. Biblical images and symbols are everywhere. If the generation of signers thought it was breaking 1st A rights, they would have been the ones to stop it.
Ron-CA Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 3:09 PM
Jack - did you read the article? Did you see the list of examples where Christians' religious freedom has been restricted?
Navy-baby Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 3:23 PM
ALLOWING individuals and Christians to hand out religious articles (such as prayer books or rosaries) at Walter Reed Hospital is NOT "using the government to bolster religion." But, It IS most definitely denying certain citizens the right to free speech and religious expression--and possibly denying some wounded soldiers a time-honored source of comfort. Can a Jew bring in a Rabbi to say a prayer over an injured warrior? What if other patients HEAR the prayer; oh-no, those patients should complain, right? Silly, isn't it? You bet!
Lietuva Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 5:38 PM
You don't think being unable to say "Easter" is not being silenced? Thy name is Foolish.
Pinkmusic Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 7:22 PM
Vic156 Wrote: Apr 02, 2013 9:40 PM
Rocker, The govt is taking down crosses and building henges. Does that not say anything to you? I give a demonrats a**e whether or not they build henges. what I care about is that they not break off the crosses.
Last week, I gave 12 examples of how religious liberty has been assaulted in just the past two years in the U.S. Here are about two dozen more instances just for good measure, as reported by the Family Research Council, the office of Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va., and various media outlets.

--The following public institutions recently have joined the growing ranks of those that have banned the use of the word "Easter" in order to diminish or eliminate references to religion: East Meadow School District in New York, Prospect Heights Public Library in Illinois, Heritage Elementary School in Alabama, Manhattan Beach Unified...