In response to:

The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 8:35 PM
"Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols.." Psalm 97:7 The un-biblical elevation by the Roman Church of Mary, the mother of Jesus, to a state of 'sinless perfection from the womb' is a heretical, anti christ LIE. There is only ONE sinless person who EVER lived: Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world, Almighty God from all eternity. Those who 'buy into' the 'Mariolatry' LIE are being set up for spiritual enslavement. Read the New Testament! Decide for yourself! That priest who lied to you won't help you on the day of judgement if you 'bought' his lie!
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 9:35 PM


We believe what the Church founded by Jesus, Son of God teaches. That's the Catholic Church; no other church comes to us from Jesus. Only the Catholic Church.

You may believe men if it suits you. They have no real church.

We are not taught by men, Andy. The way YOU are.

Marie150 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:09 PM
Yes, there is only one Church. It is made up of true believers. His adopted children that will live in His kingdom, forever.

Dread do you believe that every person attending a Catholic Church really believes?
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:14 PM
The WONDERFUL thing, that fills my heart with joy, Dread, is GOD KNOWS which one of us is TELLING THE TRUTH... I trust in an un-seen LORD, who has saved me, washed me in His blood, and filled me with His holy Spirit. And who is going to take me to heaven someday, where He has promised He has prepared a place for me. You trust in a corrupt, un-godly organization riddled with pedophiles, run by sinful old men in costly garb, which has corrupted and changed God's word for over 1,200 years for its own purposes. You go YOUR way and stick with your 'church', I'll go with mine...
Destrecht2 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 8:50 PM
Kecharitomene: Full of Grace (Luke 1:28) It's a past perfect- one who has always been full of Grace. If you are full of grace you have no sin.
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 9:22 PM
Simply baloney. Only ONE sinless man (or woman) since the Fall of man- JESUS CHRIST, the Savior of the world. We don't have TWO 'saviors', or two 'redeemers', or two 'intermediaries'with God...ONLY ONE
Marie150 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:06 PM
Grace does not mean sinless. . Mary was a virgin. Jesus was not conceived in sin. Original sin is carried in the seed. Mary was saved by grace. She believed that Jesus was the Messiah, Redeemer and King. Like every other believer her sin will not be held against her. And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. She would not need a Savior if she had never sinned. Jesus did not need a Savior. She also said, For behold, from this time on all generations will count me blessed.
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 10:50 PM
thank you, Marie..you summed the matter beautifully...another false dogma created by deceived men 'bites the dust'!
Destrecht2 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 8:45 PM
Adam and eve were created sinless.
Destrecht2 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 8:46 PM
In fact, what if I told you there were millions of sinless?
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 8:53 PM
Only TWO were created sinless, Adam and Eve. They broke God's explicit commandment, fell into SIN, and died spiritually. ALL of their descendants, including Mary, mother of Jesus, were born spiritually DEAD, in trespasses and sins.
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 9:29 PM
JESUS, the sinless Son of God, died on the cross to deliver us from the curse of sin, and its penalty, death.
A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...