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Redefining Marriage Sign of a Lost Society

Andy544 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 4:00 PM
"Without FAITH it is impossible to please GOD. For he that comes to GOD must believe that He exists, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligent seek him." Hebrews 11:6 There is only ONE WAY to come to GOD, and 'prove' that He exists and that His word is TRUE: and that is by FAITH in His SON, JESUS CHRIST, who died for the sins of the world. Those of us who have done it KNOW His word is true! Those of you who have NOT done it, are simply railing and fulminating against something which you have NO concept of!
Paul4109 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 4:15 PM
And this has exactly what to do with the question of marriage equality? Or Star Parker's bizarre conflation of voter support of marriage equality with putting slavery to a vote?
Patriot155 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 4:40 PM
As well as your ridiculous comparison of the gay rights movement to the civil rights movement.
Paul4109 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 5:00 PM
Marriage is a civil right. The Supreme Court said it is; they've said it in at least 14 cases, going all the way back to the 19th Century. If you don't believe you have a civil right to marry the person you choose, go argue with the Supremes.

And while equal rights for gay people are not THE civil rights movement, any more than womens' sufferage was THE civil rights movement, or desegregating schools was THE civil rights movement, they are all civil rights movements. And they were all opposed by old white men who claimed to be standing for God and Country. And all of them were wrong.
Patriot155 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 5:22 PM
Hey, paul. MLK was a dude that was opposed to homosexuality. Was he an old white man?
Paul4109 Wrote: Nov 26, 2012 5:34 PM
I'm not aware that MLK ever said anything about opposing gay rights... but Bayard Rustin, a gay man who worked closely with Dr King, might give us a clue about how he felt. MLK's widow, in 2004, said "Gay and lesbian people have families, and their families should have legal protection, whether by marriage or civil union. A constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages is a form of gay bashing and it would do nothing at all to protect traditional marriages."

One significant development in the recent election was votes in four states approving same sex marriage initiatives. Until now, all previous state referenda to approve same sex marriage – 32 of them - failed.

The Wall Street Journal editorial page – a place where conservatives usually turn for intellectual capital – saw this as cause for celebration.

According to the Journal, marriage definition should come from voters, not from court orders. Americans, they argue, have “shown themselves more than capable of changing their views on gay marriage the democratic way.”

In other words, our definition of marriage should follow process, not...