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Beck, Marriage and The State of The Union

Andy544 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 1:46 PM
Marriage is a sacrament of the Church, invented by God. Marriage was not invented by man- marriage is not man's idea, it is God's idea.As such, man does not have the 'right' to 'define' WHAT is marriage. Genesis 2:23-24 says, "And Adam said, 'this is now bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man. Therefore, shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Jesus added, "what therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder". (Mark 10:9). Multiple marriages is sexual 'schizophrenia' and confusion; 'same sex marriage' is a grotesque parody of God's one-flesh covenant between ONE man and ONE woman.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 8:33 PM
marriage predates religion. primitive tribes had marriage. the tribal leader performed the ceremony.
religion merely ADOPTED marriage,recognizing it's worth,standardized it and kept better records.
David3036 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 5:49 PM
Your church's sacrament CANNOT be changed by any law or any government agency. The only thing the legislators, the voters or the courts can change is the civil, legal recognition of a couple.

The government cannot even change the FLDS practice of polygamy, because those husbands can only have one "legal" wife even as they claim multiple "spiritual" wives. Unless there is welfare fraud or an underage "wife," those cases are not prosecuted.

There are no laws against living with and bedding with as many women (or men) as you wish, so while FLDS husbands call it marriage, we call it adultery -- and that is NOT illegal.
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 1:51 PM
we now have a culture engaged in total sexual confusion- 'anything goes'- and sliding into the Pit via the bedroom door.
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 1:54 PM
A godly government protects the sacrament of marriage. Godly leaders recognize when the basic foundation stone of a society- marriage- founders, the ENTIRE culture founders. False prophets and false teachers do not defend marriage, but are wolves in sheep's clothing ushering in destruction into a society.
ZealousConscript Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 1:57 PM
But what if you're not Christian? Why should you be required to follow the tenents of a religion that you do not participate in?
Andy544 Wrote: Dec 07, 2012 2:31 PM
Zealous, thank you for your thoughtful and polite response (absent any railing or bile). To answer your question briefly: because Christianity (i.e., the teachings and precepts of God's word, the Bible) WORKS! Throughout history, the societies that were most closely allied to the teachings and precepts of Christ have been the most successful! (not perfect; we are living in a sinful fallen world awaiting its full Redemption). Christianity 'works' because it as 'allied' and 'lining up' with the God who created and sustains all things. There is life and blessing when we do it HIS way! Why do you obey a sign that reads, "Danger-High tension voltage"? Inabilty to read the sign, or willful disobedience to it will NOT exempt you!

My buddy, Glenn Beck, has made a great contribution to the TEA party movement and to a renewal of popular interest in our Founding Fathers and their ideals. For all that he deserves praise.

But, I believe, he is making a serious error in abandoning the civil right of marriage. The Republican Party was founded in opposition to two historic wrongs. The party’s first platform in 1856 denounced “slavery and polygamy—the twin relics of barbarism.” Slavery was finally put down with a terrible toll—630,000 Americans dead in the Civil War. The new movie, Lincoln, tells the dramatic story of the...