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Andy53 Wrote: Jan 15, 2013 10:59 PM
That is too bad. Each one of Russell15's arguments have a flaw, most failing to realize that all human life, regardless of ability to participate, is infinitely valuable. Natural death is a result out of immediate control. Life is precious because love cannot exist without it, and love given of free will is the very essence of God. Even the potential to love is infinitely valuable.
Russell15 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 10:23 PM
You said: "There is nothing exclusive about saving the lives of the unborn and the post-born. It doesn't take much skill in multi-tasking to understand "why."

Scientific law shows that it is impossible to save both. Multitasking will not work. There are 1.8 born babies dying each second and 1.4 abortions per second. You cannot save all. If you spend 1 second saving fetuses, then 1.8 born babies will die.
The proof is you murder born babies.

Russell15 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 10:21 PM
You said: "There is nothing exclusive about saving the lives of the unborn and the post-born. It doesn't take much skill in multi-tasking to understand "why."

Scientific law shows that it is impossible to save both. Multitasking will not work. There are 1.8 born babies dying each second and 1.4 abortions per second. You cannot save all. If you spend 1 second saving fetuses, then 1.8 born babies will die.
The proof is you murder born babies.

Russell15 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 10:20 PM
You said: "There is nothing exclusive about saving the lives of the unborn and the post-born. It doesn't take much skill in multi-tasking to understand "why."

Scientific law shows that it is impossible to save both. Multitasking will not work. There are 1.8 born babies dying each second and 1.4 abortions per second. You cannot save all. If you spend 1 second saving fetuses, then 1.8 born babies will die.
The proof is you murder born babies.

Russell15 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 10:17 PM
I admit you are acting like you are confused. However, you have been notified that you are murdering life, yet you continue to murder. Your old excuse was that you were preserving life, but that excuse is no longer valid. You now have a choice, you may choose to save born babies or let them die. We know the choice you have made to this point. You choose to murder born babies.
Anominus Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 12:10 PM
Your argument is a strawman. It is based on some mythology that pro-lifers commit murder simply because we try to preserve the lives of the unborn - something you have never bothered to prove. "All life dies" is a self-evident fact - it has nothing to do with your "reasoning," or your nonsensical "law of charity." You apparently believe that by intentionally ending lives, you are magically saving lives elsewhere. You have no right to choose who lives and who dies in your imaginary "triage."

There is nothing exclusive about saving the lives of the unborn and the post-born. It doesn't take much skill in multi-tasking to understand "why."
Russell15 Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 11:48 AM
No, your analogy is false and the whole thing is a straw man argument.
It is not my reasoning that all life dies, that is the basis of the "Law of Charity" and is a fact. And I do not murder live fetuses, I protect wanted fetuses that you try to murder. I do allow fetuses to die if their birth causes the death of born life.
I use triage.

The fact is that there are 150 million people that need adoption and an additional 57 million that are dying. I simply focus on saving the most life possible. You focus on letting those that are already born suffer and die. You place the life of the fetus above the life of babies, children and adults. I save babies, children and adults.
Anominus Wrote: Jan 17, 2013 11:23 AM
According to your "reasoning," Russell, 100% of life dies at some point in time, so that means that all life is the equivalent of murder, at least in your infantile estimation. So, why do pro-deathers murder live fetuses to save dead babies?
Russell15 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:27 PM
What kind of nut are you? None of what you say makes sense when taken in the context of the fact that you are murdering babies.---

You have no proof that any life is infinitely valuable. 70 percent of conceptions die within the first trimester and 15% more die before birth. If life is precious, why do pro lifers murder born babies to attempt to save dead fetuses?
Russell15 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:24 PM
You have a choice Andy53, you can save a born baby or you can kill it in an effort to resurrect a dead fetus.

You choice is to murder born babies.
Russell15 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:22 PM
You have no proof that any life is infinitely valuable. 70 percent of conceptions die within the first trimester and 15% more die before birth. If life is precious, why do pro lifers murder born babies to attempt to save dead fetuses?
Andy53 Wrote: Jan 16, 2013 11:03 PM
I read as many more Russell15's comments. If you think he is in any way cogentm you need to step back and re-evaluate. He is disturbed.

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