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How Gays and Women Get In Their Own Way

And the goshdarn Liberal Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:14 AM
Typical stupid conservative. The law does not force you to like something or someone you despise. But, you may not use tax dollars to support or enforce your dislike. Those tax dollars come from everyone, not just the bigoted leaders and members of a particular group. This same argument was made about racial discrimination. The Supreme Court trashed it so thoroughly 50 years ago that only a stupid conservative woman would have forgotten or try to morph it into other areas. Private clubs/organizations and others can be as exclusive as they want, they cannot use tax dollars in any way to enforce that exclusivity. If you want to sit and wallow in your ideas, be my guest, just don't use my dime.
Younger Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 11:31 AM
The fulminations of a typical liberal who is utterly does not want to think matters through.
kgrammer Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 11:08 AM
Racial discrimination is a stain on America, particularly since it lastedfor almost 100 years after the Constitution outlawed it. Democrats throughout the South continued to persecute, segregate, intimidate--in short, Jim Crow--in order to deny blacks their constitutional rights. Now we have gays and women's groups screaming that their civil rights are being denied even though that is not the case. These militants have hijacked civil rights for their own hissy fit with society. With blacks the issue was real, with gays and women's groups it is the theft of a noble cause for their own irrelevant issue. Given the suits involved, the tax payers are paying mightily for this waste of the courts' time.
iprazhm Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:56 AM
The Boy Scouts of America are within their legal right to reject anyone they deem not adherent to their rules for admission; The BSA has already fought and won this battle per the 2000 Supreme Court ruling that affirmed the BSA’s constitutional right to set its own membership rules.
Texas Chris Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:56 AM
NO private group should be receiving public funds. That's a big part of the problem.

But individuals should be able to discriminate. It is simple rights of association.
Barbara1247 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:47 AM
While I agree with most of what Katie says, I think that you are correct when you make the point that entities that accept taxpayer funding or make use of taxpayer-funded facilities should not be able to exclude anyone. Gays and women should not be forced to fund organizations that exclude them. If an organization wants to make autonomous decisions and maintain its independence, it shouldn't be accepting government handouts.
Texas Chris Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:59 AM
By the same token, government funds should never be available for these uses.
Bob F. RVN70-71 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:21 AM
How many tax dollars do the Boy Scouts receive?
And the goshdarn Liberal Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:25 AM
When they use public facilities open to all, that is a tax payer subsidy. Go rent a private facility and be as exclusive as you want, but not on my tax dollar and not on the excluded kid's tax dollar.
Rightwheel Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:30 AM
Oh, please. If you wear your gay rights awareness rainbow on your shirt while eating a sandwich in a public park, does that count as a taxpayer subsidy for gay rights? BSA troops meet in all kinds of facilities including public school lunchrooms, churches, private homes, etc., etc.
Texas Chris Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:58 AM
I agree, there shouldn't be public funding for any of these things. Bo government parks, or government "public facilities open to all", and especially no funds directly to these groups.

Government needs to provide the basic service it was instituted for, property security and contract enforcement, and leave the rest to charity.
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:17 AM
Bla, bla, bla. Name-calling doesn't constitute making a point.
And the goshdarn Liberal Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:20 AM
Can't read the entire post? or maybe the redundancy of stupid conservative shocked you.
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 10:29 AM
No, just can't address all that's wrong with it in a short space.
midfielder2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 12:22 PM
No, it was the stupidity of your post and all the others that you pound out. We are however amazed that you can type so much using only one hand. Wonder where the other one is?

Gays can be leaders. Women can be leaders. Without realizing it, I think gays and women inadvertently work against their own objective of equality when they force private organizations to support gay and female leaders.

As I wrote here, gays and women are already equal before the Constitution, which defines us by our humanity, not by our sexuality, and is silent on most personal matters like marriage. Furthermore, the more the federal government defines our rights, the less free, equal and human we all become.

Here is what generally happens when minority groups confuse social acceptance with equality...