One can make an argument about government involved in marriage at all although if people within a state want to promote strong families and the continuation of its population (which only a man and a woman can do) the state has the right to have the financial incentive for marriage and raising kids. Marriage in itself is a religious term and has a meaning of a man and woman coming together. There are other ways outside of marriage to recognize two human beings being together. The bottom line is though; our founders never intended the federal government to have as much power as it has these days. Most decisions were to be left up to the states. If it is not in the Constitution it should not be a federal issue. Marriage (gay or straight)...

Does Mohammed Shiite In The Woods? writes: Thursday, August, 05, 2010 5:19 PM
Andrew
"As marriage is not in the Constitution a state has the right to determine how it will handle marriage."

OK, let's overturn Loving v. Virginia!

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Yes we should as two wrongs do not make a right. The federal government has no right to be in the marriage business. That being said, there is a difference between a man and a woman and no difference between two men and two woman. Two people of the same sex are not equal in realtionship to two people of the opposite sex. For those who say they are equal are biggoted againt biology and reality.

Here we have a case of another Anti American Judge who should be impeached and thrown out of the country. No place in our Constitution does it say anything about gays have the right to marry. It is not a case of equal protection as gays have the same rights as all of us and marriage is not a right. This judge is thrown out the will of the people which is a travesty of justice. The true fact is gays are not concerned about rights; they are concerned about money and the benefits they get from marriage. The bottom line, this is about greed. Our founders are rolling over in their graves at the moment and how the document they created is being torn to shreds. The question I have is why do gays disrespect marriage and are intolerant of what...

Does Mohammed Shiite In The Woods? writes: Wednesday, August, 04, 2010 8:58 PM
Andrew
"No place in our Constitution does it say anything about gays have the right to marry."

Undertaketh to lay thy finger on that article or clause in the Constitution that grants you the right to marry.
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Thank you for making my point. As marriage is not in the Constitution a state has the right to determine how it will handle marriage. A state could certainly say it will not acknowledge marriage for anyone. This debate is really about state rights and how this activist judge trampled on the right of the citizens to determine how they will define marriage.

I should also add children of same sex couples are not a natural state of nature so should be taken into consideration when one talks of true marriage.

As i said there are no benefits of same sex marriage as people of the same sex can not get married. Marriage is between a man and a woman and to call two people of the same sex married is a lie. It can not happen. No matter how you twist your logic it is not possible. It is like tryinig to connect two bolts... not possible. The problem with liberals is they twist meanings to their own twisted logic. If you want civil unions go ahead but marriage between two people of the same sex is not possible. I understand the greedy need to change something that can not be changed but only those small minded indviduals who do not understand the true concept of what marriage is and meant to be could possbily advocate for same sex marriage.

The real question is why are proponents of gay marriage bigoted toward marriage? Marriage is and always has been a union between one man and one woman. There is such a thing as civil unions which work quite well for gays. This issue is about greed and one group of citizens (who have all the same rights as the rest of us) forcing an issue for their own greed and self interest. Gay marriage in no way, shape or form an asset to society as marriage between a man and a woman is (reproduction and raising a raising a family ensuring survival of that society).

You are so right. Instead of trying provide an atmosphere where everyone has an opportunity to raise themselves up liberals want to tear down those who have dug down and raised themselves up. Tearing down those who succeed to help t hose who don't only creates a mediocre society. The thing is those who succeed are often the most generous in their giving and as a society we should foster success and giving from the heart not the barrel of a gun (as liberals force upon us).

What give you the right to steal from someone else however they have their money? This is anti american in itself, the belief you have the right to someone elses property. Are you jealous of people with more wealth? Is this why you want to take from them? Why not earn your earn. When people say the wealthy do not pay their fair share what is their fair share? 80%? 90% 100?. The fact is liberals practice clase warfare and the fact is those who earn their wealth pay far more then their fare share. If you can't accept it get a life or move out of this country. The fairest way to tax is a consumption tax, where even the poor pay their fair share for the freedoms we all enjoy. Somehow liberals believe that those with money are more american...

There is nothing "progressive" about bigger government, taking away our freedoms, and destruction of our Constitution outside of the progressive growth of government and the progressive spending us into the greatest debt this country has ever seen. Conservatives are the true "progressives" as conservative policies provides opportunties for the progressive growth of freedom and individuals to progress toward wealth within their lives.