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The Newtown Massacre and the Pain of God

anderson659 Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 12:10 AM
Progressives will say they have science, there is no need for God if you believe in science. The trouble is science is all about trying to explain how creation happened, not disproving God. The human genome has been mapped, 22,000 pairs of protein encoded genes, all in precise order for life to occur. Random cannot organize itself... Godless progressives will ignore this empirical evidence of creation and claim there is no God. God gave mankind freewill, the evil in this world is something that has been established, predicted, and clearly spoken to. Progressives have disowned God and have no moral baseline, this is free will, sadly it reflects on society today in the worse way..
rmccarthy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 1:08 AM
If a progressive is a sinner, it doesn't especially matter if I am more or less a sinner. In God's cosmos negatives and positives work together in balance giving us the experience of life that we seem to only want the enjoyable part of (the Beatitudes), maybe not recognizing the pain that we have caused and not doing as much good as we could (love one another as I have loved you). Perhaps nobody should complain because we only suffer to the extent that we do not trust in God - not that we can not experience pain and grieve but that it is only a part of the whole (a time for everything).
rmccarthy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 1:35 AM
Scientists argue with themselves, Christians argue with themselves, Christians argue with Scientists, Atheists argue with Christians with Scientists with themselves, etc, etc, etc. Meanwhile, there is the alternative of seeing more wisdom and less facts...seems we are always correcting the facts anyway. Why, I've even found myself mistaken a couple of times. I only trust that God and Nature's laws work the way they do whether I understand or not or agree or not. "Love one another" or "Help each other through this thing, whatever it is" sounds best to me.
oldshortfatboy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 2:51 AM
blueridgegranny Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 7:15 AM
Actually, I'm not so sure the Beatitudes are the pleasant part...He established some pretty tough standards, which few of us truly live up to. Which is why we need Jesus.
Shlomo O'Kelly Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 10:18 AM
It is written: "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom, get understanding with all your getting"; and, "..all the paths of wisdom are peace". When we get back to taking these Scriptures to heart, then , a whole lot of our current woes will cease.
rmccarthy Wrote: Dec 17, 2012 11:41 AM
I have felt like the defeated and once wanted to be like the rich and powerful...the Beatitudes is a better way to go - it offers me and others hope and direction.

In the aftermath of the Newtown massacre, as family members and friends of the slain and wounded suffer unspeakable agony, people around the world are asking, “Where was God?” But very few are asking, “Is God hurting too?”

According to Basilea Schlink (1904-2001), a German Christian leader who stood up to the Nazis, “Anyone who loves as much as God does, cannot help suffering. And anyone who really loves God will sense that He is suffering.” She found support for this view in the writings of the Japanese Lutheran theologian Kazoh Kitamori in his book “Theology of the Pain of God.”

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