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Do Gun Control Laws Control Guns?

AmyDB Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 12:15 PM
Spartacus said.... I just want to know how far we are ready to go for this. I see a lot of talk from people about cold dead hands and whatnot. I've been guilty of it too. But when you sit and think about it, are you really going to shoot the sheriff or whoever is assigned to enforce this tyranny? I like to think that I'm capable of being that devoted to my principles, that if some official demanded I hand over my guns he'd be met with the large bore of my .45 staring at him. ______ As I've said....I am not comfortable with talk about killing other Americans. It may come to that but I for one will take no joy in that. I've taken small steps to avoid that eventuality. One of them is to back the nullification movement within my state.
william704 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 1:08 PM
some say there is 80,000,000 gun owners and over 300 million guns in the US. if there were a government agenda to take the guns by confiscation can you imagine each one of those 80 million resisting by killing the 1st confiscator thru the door. it would not be long before the confiscators would
refuse to do their jobs.
Lightsender Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 12:40 PM
In John Bad Elk vs United States, the Supreme Court found John not guilty for killing a police officer who was trying to arrest him falsely. As you say, killing other Americans is not something most anyone would like to talk about, for any reason. However, there may come the day where just that is necessary to defend our freedom. We are not immune. History has not changed the nature of human kind to tyrannize one another. It would be an awful thing and something not done for "transient" reasons. In order to follow our forefathers, it would take a long string of abuses.
spartacus3344 Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 12:18 PM
I'm not comfortable with it either, but isn't that what we're all talking about here? Worst case scenario?
AmyDB Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 12:28 PM
It is indeed, sadly, is indeed.
AmyDB Wrote: Jan 22, 2013 12:18 PM
Nullification is one thing we can do that is lawful & moral Spartacus. Unfortunately there are quite a few states where that is not a possibility. The only choice then, it seems to me, is for patriots to move, to vote with your feet. Even more unfortunately there are some who can not do so.
The gun control controversy is only the latest of many issues to be debated almost solely in terms of fixed preconceptions, with little or no examination of hard facts.

Media discussions of gun control are dominated by two factors: the National Rifle Association and the Second Amendment. But the over-riding factual question is whether gun control laws actually reduce gun crimes in general or murder rates in particular.

If, as gun control advocates claim, gun control laws really do control guns and save lives, there is nothing to prevent repealing the Second Amendment, any more than there was anything to prevent repealing the...