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amonk7 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 1:39 PM
wmou, do you really think Jesus was a right wing evangelical? Scripture says Jesus was a revolutionary who overthrew the tables of the social conservatives. He inspired Dr Martin Luther King to turn against the war in Vietnam. He inspired Gandhi and Desmond Tutu as well as countless Liberation theologists including Oscar Romero who was killed by the same death-squad families who financed Romney's Bain Capital. (Talk about moral compass) One of Jesus' 12 was a Zealot, a freedom fighter in modern terms.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 05, 2012 9:46 AM
a, jesus was a "socialist"!
wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 2:32 PM
Go into all the world and spread the Gospel. Evangelical.
He defined the Fundamentals. Love God, Love all people.
He taught that all sex outside of marriage(fornication) is a sin.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:55 PM

You misapply that passage, wmou.

He spoke the words to His apostles; who were the nucleus of His Church. Not to free lance evangelicals. The Church was founded by Christ;

You can see in Acts 2, when the Holy
Spirit descended upon them, totalling 72 with their disciples; the birth of the Catholic Church in Jerusalem; the EVANGELIZING Christian Church. They came well before your preachers in America.

wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 5:57 PM
13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

Evangelical does not mean grabbing people by the collar and screaming at them they are going to hell. Sharing the good news of the Love and Foregiveness of God is our duty,not by force, coersion. Matthew 5:
14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 6:37 PM


"Evangelical does not mean grabbing people by the collar and screaming at them they are going to hell."

Yet there are denominational ministers who act just like that. They are without authority to speak at all; just because they can cite scripture.

The devil often cited scripture to Jesus and his followers. That's how come there came wolves in sheeps clothing; as Christ prophesied. HERETICS in the Church!

That's why tares sprouted up in the midst of wheat; "An enemy hath done this," is what the parable explained.

Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 6:42 PM

An enemy! How did the enemy make tares spring up in that field; the kingdom of heaven? The Landowner's servant inquired; "Master; didst thou not sow only good seed? (the holy Gospel.) But the ENEMY brought a distorted interpretation of scripture; into the field (Christ's Church.) It was the devil, quoting Scripture all the time:

The so-called Reformation.

wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 7:22 PM
All Christians have the authority to speak in the name of our Lord. I need nobody to intercede for me. I go directly to the foot of the Throne of God.
However, all Christians are accountable if we teach. If we teach error, we cause others to stumble.
wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 7:24 PM
Why do Catholics have so many images of God? Why do Catholics pray to Mary and the Saints instead of God? Why do Catholics call preists Father?
Mark in CA Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 1:52 PM
No, Jesus came to save men and women from the corruption that is an inherent in our natures and in the world. His focus was not on political revolution although the consequences of accepting Jesus as Lord and Saviour will cause a person to be born again into a new nature. To try to use Jesus to promote revolution and social change without receiving him as Lord and Saviour and without acknowledging the Bible as the inerrant Word of God is to distort Jesus.
amonk7 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 2:01 PM
The "inerrant word" is a flawed teaching. Even if the Bible is inerrant, context matters. The laws about when I could have sex with my slave girl are quite irrelevant today.

Even if the Bible is inerrant, interpretations aren't, and every reading of the Bible is an interpretation. Every time a preacher chooses one passage over another it is an interpretation.

Too many preachers use inerrant word to imply their preaching is inerrant, which is the grave sin of idolatry, putting themselves over God.
wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 2:34 PM
"every reading of the Bible is an interpretation."
Totally true, that is why we are to base our beliefs and actions in the two Fundamental teachings. If our words or actions are not motivated by Love, we have strayed from the teachings of our Lord.
AZYaateeh Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:00 PM
If you'd actually read the Bible you'd know the Law—which is, by the bye, otherwise known as "Judaism"—says you can have sex with your slave girl AFTER YOU MARRY HER. You first have to let her mourn for any kin she may have lost in whatever conflict rendered her a slave, though.
wmou Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:06 PM
Bible you'd know the Law"

Most of the laws in the Old Testament were written by men.
Matthew 19:
7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 3:46 PM

I have to agree, amonk,

The Word of God is unimpeachable; the revealed truth. But a reader of Bible passages isn't always correctly discerning. Particularly when his understanding of a controversial point is dictated to him by ministers who are not really ordained to spread the Gospel. They lack apostolic authority. That authority is in the Church of the apostles; Christ's own:

The Holy Catholic Church.

Jim1653 Wrote: Oct 02, 2012 1:47 PM
According to some ancient writings, Jesus himself was a Zealot, a Zadokite priest. I can handle that. Doesn't take away from any of his teachings.
For at least the last hundred years, the world's most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam.

It is leftism.

Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the...