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What Are McCain and Graham Thinking?

AmericanLiberal Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:43 PM
let's not kid ourselves: if Bush were President, then being opposed to the drone option would be seen as unAmerican in the least, possibly traitorous. Let's not kid ourselves on this. The opposition to drones as a weapon in the war on terror is not principled. It is partisan. Again, let's not kid ourselves here.
scrow Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 5:21 PM
Given most of the Senators, Republicans and Democrats alike, are okay with the President having no oversight on his ability to launch drone attacks on Americans, it's not clear why it's partisan.
Resist, We Much!!! Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:53 PM
Sure, it is, which must be why I opposed a lot of what Bush did and why people like Glenn Greenwald, Spencer Ackerman, Conor Friedersdorf, Kirsten Powers, the ACLU, CodePink, Van Jones, John Cusack, Eugene Robinson, Rob Lowe, etc, are #StandingWithRandPaul.
Panda Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:52 PM
Everything AmericanLiberal just wrote is wrong.

We supported waterboarding of 3 confirmed terrorists to get information that led to--among other valuable things--the killing of Bin Laden. To equate this with approving drone strikes on non-imminent threats posed by US citizens without due process is laughable to levels even unique for American Liberal.

Drones are a weapon. We do not oppose using them (another hilarious AmLib straw man). We oppose using them or any other lethal force in unconstitutional ways.

AmLib, you get another epic fail.
GustaveMolinari Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:54 PM
but let's not kid ourselves.
jimmylynn Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:51 PM
I believe you can't get more principled than demanding that "the rule of law" be upheld. When you start letting your government officials by-pass that little fact and just decide who and who will not be targeted by our government for extermination, are you any better than some third world dictatorship? I don't see it as partisan at all and the partisanship is coming from those that do.
ThumpasaurasVox Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:49 PM
Your argument is void for ridiculous as it requires the powers of time travel and clairvoyance.
GustaveMolinari Wrote: Mar 07, 2013 4:46 PM
What are you trying to say AL?

Let's be honest: Everyone knows McGraham will never see eye-to-eye with Rand Paul on a host of national security issues, from the proper threshold for US military intervention, to the expansiveness of executive powers in wartime.  Indeed, when their respective camps square off on any number of questions, I often (though not always) find myself on Team McGraham.  But as Katie described earlier, McCain and Graham's sneering performance on the Senate floor today was maddening to witness.  Case in point, this dumb infographic:

Spare us, Senator. You're...