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Progressives Using Jesse Jackson Shakedown Tactics to Outsmart ALEC

alobo Wrote: Apr 19, 2012 11:53 AM
Whether you agree with the progressive agenda or not (I personally find most of their ideas either nonsensical or outright dangerous, well intentioned though they may be), the tactics being used here are not only entirely legal but also completely valid. Boycotting companies whose policies you don't agree with is a very effective democratic way of influencing them. Yes, it is a somewhat not ideal to try and avoid an open discussion, but as long as you are not threatening to use/using violent force, I am completely in support of such tactics. The unfortunate part is that the progressives have managed to "herd" a large percentage of minorities into doing their bidding without thinking for themselves.
johninohio Wrote: Apr 20, 2012 11:47 PM
You're contradicting yourself.

"the tactics being used here are not only entirely legal but also completely valid"

"The unfortunate part is that the progressives have managed to "herd" a large percentage of minorities into doing their bidding without thinking for themselves."

No one said the tactics are illegal. But are they moral? Should they be tolerated or overlooked? Are the actions of Soros' front groups based on the truth, or on lies and slander? If the latter, then what makes them "valid"?

Is it OK if these leftist organizations mislead "...a large percentage of minorities into doing their bidding..." with lies?
Richard265 Wrote: Apr 20, 2012 4:47 PM
In this particular situation it's against the law since it is being done by tax free organizations that are not allowed to get involved in political speech.
BeanBurrito Wrote: Apr 19, 2012 4:50 PM
Well said, while I disagree with their agenda I have no problem with people being held accountable for their actions. In the case of a corporation that means affecting their bottom line. This is very different than going to a person's house with a mob and trying to personally intimidate them and it is up to the corporation to decide whether or not the potential loss of business is worth their support of an issue or group. I think it is not a bad thing that corporations (which I believe to be amoral) understand that their involvement outside of a very narrow scope will be scrutinized. Also note this is different then the Koch brothers as individuals using their own money to support issues...
BeanBurrito Wrote: Apr 19, 2012 4:52 PM
In fact I think it is incumbent on US to make OUR voices known and affect change using the market more effectively
johninohio Wrote: Apr 20, 2012 11:52 PM
What are you saying? Because corporations are "amoral" they not only deserve to be scrutinized, but screwed as well? That they don't deserve to be treated fairly in the public arena? And how do you know the Koch brothers aren't using their own money?

You're just making excuses for people who fight dirty. Would it be OK if you were treated that way, or does it all just go in one direction?

The left’s latest target du jour is ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council. ALEC is a nonprofit, nonpartisan membership organization for state legislators. It promotes limited government, free markets and federalism. ALEC provides model legislation for legislators to copy for their states. More than 2000 Republican and Democrat legislators are members. Almost one thousand of ALEC’s bills are introduced every year and 20% become law. ALEC has been around for 40 years, but operated under the radar until conservatives started making record gains in state legislatures.

Funded by left wing billionaire George Soros, the left started an intimidation campaign...

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