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Chevy Volt Follows Stupid 2012 with Stupider 2013

Allen239 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 7:30 AM
The primary problems with owning a Chevy Volt is the limited number of recharging stations in the U.S. and the length of time it takes to recharge the car's batteries. Cars powered by gasoline or diesel have thousands and thousands of service stations where they can be refueled in just a few minutes. Also, some of the Volts have catch fire due to malfunctions in the car's batteries. Car owners need dependable cars that can transport them to places such as their jobs in a timely manner. Gasoline and diesel driven cars are more dependable then electric cars such as the Volt.
SteveL2 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 1:15 PM
The primary problem with owning a Volt is that the proponents of the Volt ignore the fact that many Americans like myself DON'T OWN GARAGES!

I rent an apartment now. Before that I owned a condo in a high-rise building. In both cases, I parked my car in the complex's parking lot.

How could I recharge a Chevy Volt overnight if it's not in a garage? With a 500 foot long extension cord?
rigby4 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:21 AM
Cars and trucks powered by propane or natural gas are an option
Chris from Kalifornia Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:29 AM
Cars and trucks powered by propane or natural gas have shorter range than gas or diesel cars and trucks due to the large heavy tanks and lower btu content of the fuel. My father had a truck converted to propane and it averaged about 10 mpg. That was with no load in it. Got 5 mpg towing their trailer hence the 85 gallon tank that took up about 2 feet of bed space and weighed an extra 200 pounds when empty.
SteveL2 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 1:17 PM
I doubt that anything but diesel or gasoline would be adequate for a truck that tows a trailer.

But for the market of soccer moms commuting around town to school and to the supermarket, natural gas or propane have more than adequate mileage.
Stuart46 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:20 AM
The Volts high compression four cylinder engine, that runs the generator to charge the batteries and power the electric motors for drive uses premium gas. It also gets worse mileage than any conventional car.
Dan107 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:08 AM
However, buying Chevy Volts and building recharge stations at the Italian embassy on limited resources is a great way for the State Department to blame republicans for not being able to properly secure the Benghazi consulate due to lack of funds.
LogicDesigner Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 7:51 AM
This is a common misconception of the Volt, that you can't go to one of the thousands of gas stations and fill it up. You can. The Volt has a gas tank. It does both: gas and electric. It runs on the battery and then when the battery runs out it runs on gas. Even if you never plugged it in, you could still drive it just like a normal gasoline car.

Secondly, the batteries have never caught on fire due to a malfunction. They have caught on fire due to a crash test, and only a week after, just like a gasoline car can catch on fire after a crash test. Except gasoline doesn't take as long to catch fire.
YESWECAN Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 7:57 AM
Just like a liberal/commie you think you have to explain things to conservatives.
LogicDesigner Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:05 AM
Actually I am a conservative. The person I was responding to (Allen239) seemed to believe that a Volt is not capable of driving after the battery is depleted.
Dan107 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:10 AM
So you can have a bump at the local grocery shoppe and then expect your car to go up in flames a week later?
I'm sorry. I didn't realize that the Chevy Volt was such a well engineered car.
My bad...
wiseone Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:14 AM
The man said the problem was that you can't CHARGE it LD. Not that you can't fill the gas tank. You are trying to move the target; change the subject.

How many gas stations within 35 miles of your home are equipped with a charging station? I don't know of any that close to my house.
Specious Rule Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:25 AM
I've never seen a charging station anywhere
jfoster Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 8:49 AM
You failed to mention that the cost of this cheap "electricity" used by the Volt (and others) is actually provided thanks in part by the fossil fuel industry so the cost savings cited by GM and others are somewhat inaccurate. In addition, you can add the ethanol costs (corn, etc.) and the shortages for foods as another coffin nail if you like. Furthermore, the efficiency of the engine is still not good because of heat loss (something that has sort of been addressed in the Tesla motors offering) however I do not believe that the Volt has the IP on that. The negatives of these vehicles for the most part outweigh the positives other than they make the owners feel good about themselves.
ahealey67 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 10:07 AM
Actually, I do not believe you are a conservative with the kind of thoughts and logic you have displayed here today!
SteveL2 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 1:16 PM
But the Volt's gas mileage is mediocre once the batteries are exhausted.

And the batteries are exhausted after only a commuting trip.

wiseone Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 7:49 AM
The primary problem with the Volt is that it costs WAY more than it's worth. IOW, it's not practical. And that won't change no matter how many charging stations Obama forces us to build.

Are you going to wait 8 hours for your Volt to charge so you can drive home from the grocery store or your kid's soccer game? Conservatives aren't that stupid and liberals don't have the patience.
Bernard83 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 9:03 AM
Well a Volt will run on Gas while some other EV's won't. But if you are going to burn gas after 30 miles on a 300 mile trip what's the point.

After a year that can only be described as “stupid,” the Chevy Volt is gearing up to make 2013 even stupider still.

I know, I know.

You find it hard to believe that a mostly-owned subsidiary of the United States government and the Obama administration- like GM is- could get any stupider than say Fannie Mae, or Federal Reserve Bank.

Yes, that’s tough competition, but in the “idiocy” category GM seems to be the ruling champion.  

Not only have they lost substantial amounts of taxpayer dollars, they have managed to do it while generating record profits...