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There's no link for my pocket comb either. Where would it go?
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Alan Childers Wrote: Oct 26, 2009 3:42 PM
"Alan
I'm tired of hearing about illegals.

They are not the problem. The problems include an aging, expensive population, too many specialists and not enough basic doctors, etc. "

Well then perhaps your efforts would be better spent trying to solve those problems. I am not aware of any of the legislation proposed so far addressing those concerns.
Is it your opinion that we should just settle for what's on the table and disregard the above?
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Alan Childers Wrote: Oct 26, 2009 3:28 PM
"life is an inalienable right
so we should provide healthcare for all, no?"

You see, the thing is, we do. The problem is that we also expect people to pay for it, which the vast majority of our citizens do. I believe that out of the 40 or so million uninsured people in the United States, once we remove the Illegal Aliens and the intentionally uninsured, there remains another 10 million or so citizens in need of some sort of assistance. It would not be a violation of our individual liberties to group them into a Medicare type of coverage arrangement and leave everyone else alone.
Unfortunately, that is not the wish of our elected progressives.
If we do not resist governments efforts to control every aspect of our lives,...
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Alan Childers Wrote: Oct 26, 2009 3:05 PM
"Alan, if it is so that your "freedom" requires that I pay a tax to maintain your "freedom", do I get a say?"

I believe that you should have a say in all taxes you may pay. But that is not the point of my discussions here, although it is nice of you to mis-characterize my thoughts.
I will attempt to clarify in order to clear up any further confusion.
The Constitution of the United States does not give our government the authority to force individual citizens to purchase any type of goods or services, nor does it have the authority for levying fines on those who refuse.
If it did, I'm sure we would all have been forced to buy a GM or Chrysler automobile this past year in lieu of an equally unConstitutional stimulus, or...
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Alan Childers Wrote: Oct 26, 2009 2:17 PM
"upside down argument, Alan"
Not at all upside down. Your argument is based on an apples/oranges analogy.
"So, we think it is more important to have car insurance than health insurance? Because driving is a privilege? Human health is far more important than ever driving a car. Life is bigger than a privilege, it is a necessity."
No, I don't think it's more important to have car insurance than health insurance. I think both are equally important. I am responsible for the financial consequences of driving a car and of needing healthcare. I use insurance to mitigate my risks in both examples.
"What is your problem? Do you have insurance, and if you don't, why not?"
Yes I do carry several different types of insurance, thank...
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Alan Childers Wrote: Oct 26, 2009 1:17 PM
sceptyczny said: "But a health reform bill will pass
and the DMV tracks you if you have no car insurance, so stop the hysteria. "
Unfortunately for your argument, one has nothing to do with another. Driving a vehicle in the United States is a privilege, one that has restrictions placed on it as a matter of safety. Requiring that drivers be of a certain age, have passed a skills test and can show proof of financial responsibility are the costs associated with exercising that privilege.
Unless they are prepared to declare life itself as a privilege, it is unprecedented to have our government force us to buy a specific product, one that we may not want, from them, or else face fines.
If we submit to this, we will deserve what...
Narcissim, ideology and isolation from the people are extremely effective blinders. Will this administration be able to remove them long enough to see the writing on the wall?
Because men of principle must live them.
I'm sure that people wondered why the Wright Brothers thought they could fly. What?? Men can't fly!
All forms of government need citizen representatives who will challenge the status quo, to place their country before their personal interests.
They may not succeed despite their best efforts, but they're guaranteed to fail if they don't try.
This country was founded as a melting pot, a place where all peoples could come together as one. Our great success during those times was that everyone then wanted to become an American.
In the name of political correctness, we've abandoned one of our greatest strengths in favor of multi-culturalism and diversity.
American will cease to exist when these divisions and partitions become the norm.
Our government was based on the concept of the 'Citizen Legislator'. Responsible citizens who were willing to give up a small portion of their private lives to help guide, shape and influence their nation's government before returning to private pursuits.
It is past time for us to return our government to its roots, limited, Federalistic, volunteer.
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