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Atheists’ and Muslims’ Cross to Bear

abcdefz Wrote: Sep 17, 2012 10:49 PM
Cheeze-ice-crust I'm sick of being lumped in with other schmucks as a "Christ-hating heathen". I'm an atheist. I don't hate Jesus of Nazareth. I will, at any time, and under any circumstances, (including being blind stinking drunk), compare, point by point, YOUR system of morals and ethics and MY system of morals and ethics and DEFY you to point out any differences. Save one. MINE follows simply from the nature of Man as Man. YOURS, (apparently), you wouldn't HAVE if you hadn't gone to church. I don't NEED Judeo-Christian philosophy to know that SIX of the Ten Commandments are SIMPLE COMMON SENSE!!!! (The other four may be laudable, but hey, I AM an atheist...) Judeo-Christian philosophy is NOT the do-all and end-all of MORALITY!!!
DCM in FL Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 10:15 AM
"I will... compare, point by point, YOUR system of morals and ethics and MY system of morals and ethics and DEFY you to point out any differences. Save one. MINE follows simply from the nature of Man as Man."

Hilarious. As if the 20th century, especially, didn't show what kind of "morals and ethics" come from the rejection of the Judeo-Christian ethic. If your "morals and ethics" aren't different from the greater, objective ethic, it's because you've borrowed from it without acknowledgment.
DCM in FL Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 10:16 AM
...I should say: what kind of "morals and ethics" come from the nature of Man as Man.
Dean197 Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 10:32 AM
Kinda like Christians did with the Greeks?
wmou Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 7:35 AM
Christianity is not about morality (thou shalt nots). It is about Love (thou shalt).
Happy Jake Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 9:04 AM
Actually, that's not true. Read the New Testament. There's plenty of "thou shalt nots" in it.

In fact one of the most important points is: "You are my friends if you do what I command you." John 14:15

Remember that Jesus IS God.
wmou Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 10:40 AM
"You are my friends if you do what I command you." John 14:15 "
Sounds like "thou shalt do" instead of "thou shalt not".
Under the old covenant we avoided sin out of fear of punishment. Under the new covenant we avoid sin because we Love God. Jesus emphasized our Love for and our service to our fellow man. If we practice perfect Love, we will not sin.
0_BAMANATION Wrote: Sep 17, 2012 11:38 PM
Alhabet soup... the extreme magnitude of complexity related to existence from strings to the Universe should be sufficient to convince any rational person with sufficient knowledge of particle and astrophysics that such perfection needs the wise guidance of a super intelligent and all supreme God.
Dean197 Wrote: Sep 18, 2012 10:31 AM
Fallacy of affirming the consequent. If God exists, nature will be wonderful. Nature is wonderful. Therefore God exists.

If I am president, I have two eyes. I have two eyes. Therefore I am president.

Same logic.

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (2 Corinthians 4:4)

While America mourned the 11th anniversary of the Islamic attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, atheist radicals were throwing fuel on the fire. While millions were praying for the friends and families of precious souls lost, self-styled “progressives” were preying upon the most significant symbol of hope to which many of the grieving clung.

The 17-foot steel-beam cross, found amid the rubble of the once towering...